Originally Posted by whodini
The denim ain't cheap but the fit is completely aribitrary, especially when there are different models. Even at $80 that "sack" is far better than anything else you could find at that price retail.
No disagreement there; they're very nice jeans without a doubt. That wasn't my issue with them. For me, though, the whole "quality" thing (whether in suits, shoes, or jeans) often gets overplayed around here; none of that really matters much to me if I don't like the garment or it looks unflattering on me. BUT, again, it's all just personal preference; I'm not telling anybody what to do with their money. I'd definitely advise trying them on first before purchase, though.