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Why doesn't he address the fact he bought the second one 3 weeks later?
And come on, if I was a 42 long in RLPL, I would have bought a 42 long and not a 44 long...right?
I sell everything with measurements, this was a side deal and you're right Pen Vic, it's not only the duty of the seller but the buyer bought the jackets within 30 mins after the phone conversation. I guess I should have told him the measurements but seeing we've done business before I just figured the first one fit him just fine?

My fault?

I've sold 4 suits through this forum over the past 3 months, and have always listed both the tag and actual measurements. If I just listed the tag, and knew that I had the suit altered but didn't disclose, then I am at fault. For example, I purchased and Alexander McQueen suit 42R new and had it altered to fit me. So, the size changed from a 42R to around 41R. Pants were also altered. I listed the suit actual stated size, but also disclosed that it was altered and worn once, and once only. I only sold the suit because it's black, and wearing black in Texas is not good for your health. The poing being, full disclosure should have been posted in the sale thread. And if the seller knew the suit was altered, he/she should accept the suit back and offer a refund.

Members of this thread tend to be fair, honest, and trust worthy. If that trust is broken, then we all hurt as buyer or sellers. There is no true recourse for a bad experience other than creating a thread for others to read. So, integrity is key. If it's an honest mistake, the seller should still issue a refund.

I made a mistake in measuring an Ike Behar Blue Herringbone that was new. The buyer notified me, and he was correct in his measurements. For the past few months we have stayed in touch because I may post a shirt he wants to exchange for. I agreed to this option, and it works for both of us.

-tony

Your rating on ebay is not in question, or subject of the topic/issue. The fact that the suit was altered, and you knew, but didn't disclose this information is the issue. Simply put, what you did is unethical and distroys the integrity of our forum. We hold each other to a high standard, and it's being tarnished with unethical members.

Do the right thing, and keep our integrity high and offer a refund.

-tony

Its your fault for selling a suit altered to a size 42L as the tag sized 44L. would it have been hard to say "tagged as a 44L but has been altered and now fits like a 42L"

sounds like the OP fits into 44L perfectly and that is what he was expecting to get when he purchased the 44L from you. Little did he know it was altered to be 2 sized smaller.

Open a dispute with paypal, and explain your situation.

-tony

1. it was one size smaller.
2. RLPL drakes fits slimmer than RLPL Savile Row, which is in term slimmer than Madison cut. (from my experience)

Comparing tagged size alone would not reveal any truth to which suit has been altered more.

mccvi, can you please explain what prompted you to buy the second suit if the first one did not fit? Is there something else we're missing here?

Dang what a mess. I guess the seller is slightly more to blame, but this is really a toss up imo.

I somewhat disagree with you on the caveat emptor part. We all come to this forum to share our satorial interests. Just a few weeks ago, I met a very kind forum member (amerikajinda) who went out of his way, drove to my house at 7PM, to make sure that a W.W Chan suit he sold, fits me. We help (sometimes in tough love way), support, and challenge each other. Some may view the SF as a brotherhood even. I don't think caveat emptor should be the first thing on our mind when we are trying to built trusts and friendships on SF. Then again, the douchbag seller was kicked-off the SF before, so my point of view is irrelevant . Andy

If I sell a 44L, and it is altered in any way to make it fit like a 42L, 46L, or like anything other than a 44L, I would explicitly state so. No matter if someone had bought another 44L from me and liked it, didn't like it. Is it the same garment? No, so it should be treated as a stand alone sale and everything - EVERYTHING - should be listed. Especially if there were major alterations. This is on the seller 100%.