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post #16 of 105
i think you'd be getting more sympathy if you had 994 posts rather than 94 but i believe he owes you a refund. did he specify any return policy? also, maybe try to deduct his shipping costs or something.
post #17 of 105
If you paid with credit card then you can initiate a charge back otherwise you are best off reselling it.
post #18 of 105
If the suit was listed as a 44L in the posting and nothing was mentioned of the tailoring, then yeah I guess I'd say that is the seller's fault.
post #19 of 105
link to the thread so we can see the description?
post #20 of 105
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post
Simple question: was it a NWT or second-hand suit? If the former, you're right in being surprised it was altered. If the latter, it was your responsibility to ask either for the measurements or if the suit had been altered.

The latter. Is that the case? If so I will swallow my pride, pack my bags, and move on. I thought the seller should have informed me of dramatic alterations. Maybe not.
post #21 of 105
This sounds a tricky situation.

If the seller has admitted they knew it was altered before selling it to you and didn't tell you (or didn't post something the original sales post/your pre-sale discussion about it fitting particularly slim for its size) I'd say they bear the responsibility.

If the seller denies knowing of the alterations until you told them it had been altered, it's a really messy problem. You have no way of knowing whether it was an honest mistake or not. I'd feel very angry, but I don't think I could place all the responsibility on the seller here, because they may genuinely not have known. Maybe an "out of goodwill" percentage discount from the seller (enough to guarantee you a breakeven/small profit on a resale), but you should also have asked for measurements if this is the scenario.

Incidentally, I think it's a really good idea for sellers to post measurements. It's a pain in the ass to do for large numbers of items, believe me I know, but it does reduce the chances of problems like this.
post #22 of 105
I agree the buyer should have gotten measurements, but he said the seller acknowledged they were altered after the sale was completed. That's not kosher in my book. I would think if he knew, (and were talking big bucks on a RLPL suit) he should have stated that in the posting.
post #23 of 105
If I were selling a suit that had been altered from a 44L to a 42L, I would either have posted measurements, or made it clear that it had been altered.
post #24 of 105
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Originally Posted by mccvi View Post
The latter. Is that the case? If so I will swallow my pride, pack my bags, and move on. I thought the seller should have informed me of dramatic alterations. Maybe not.

i completely disagree. when selling a pre-owned suit, it is the sellers complete responsibility to post accurate measurements and inform of alterations.

when selling pre-owned suits, one should always assign sizing according to measurements, NOT to tag...i believe both the seller and the buyer are at fault here. The seller should give a refund and accept the return (aka, he needs to grow a spine and take it like a man). Both should learn their lesson and ask for/post accurate measurements and give complete disclosure
post #25 of 105
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Originally Posted by slycedbred View Post
i believe both the seller and the buyer are at fault here. The seller should give a refund and accept the return (aka, he needs to grow a spine and take it like a man). Both should learn their lesson and ask for/post accurate measurements and give complete disclosure
+1
post #26 of 105
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Originally Posted by mccvi View Post
The latter. Is that the case? If so I will swallow my pride, pack my bags, and move on. I thought the seller should have informed me of dramatic alterations. Maybe not.

A second-hand suit, esp RLPL, will always be altered. That said, as a seller, if someone had a problem with one of my items due to a miscommunication, I'd take it back. I typically try to price things where there will be multiple buyers, so reselling isn't a problem. Gets a little tougher for higher $ items, however, but tough shit if you care about your reputation. I don't think anyone's going to the poor house over having to eat $200 or so.
post #27 of 105
Thread Starter 
Here is what the seller e-mailed to me- "The suit and jacket both say on the tag 44 long. If it said 42 long and I posted as a 44 long then you would have recourse, but seeing I stated the item as a 44 long and sold it as a 44 long I don't see why the refund should be issued?" This is with full acknowledgment on his part that the suit was altered, and altered considerably - in fact he lists his suit size now as a 42 long on this forum. Anyway I agree with those who state that the fault lies on both sides, I should have been more prudent. I wish he saw it that way.
post #28 of 105
mccvi, for what its worth, I think he ought to take his suit back. If he said it was a 44L and did not mention it had been altered he wasnt being reasonably diligent in accurately describing what he was selling. He doesnt really have a very good argument for not taking the suit back other than he doesnt want to go through the bother of reselling it. He is probably within his rights to be a hardass but at that point he gives up his right not to be mentioned by name. If he feels what he has done is perfectly defensible behavior then he should have no trouble or objection to defending it here on the forum.

We have only heard your side of the story but as it stands I would like to know who it was because I wouldnt want to buy a suit from him given what I have learned. Whats his side of the argument?
post #29 of 105
I say selling something as a tagged size when you know it has been altered is shady and I wouldn't want to buy from that person. I vote for outing..
post #30 of 105
Thread Starter 
I have e-mailed him the posting so he can out himself... as I don't wish to be unfair. I clearly should have been more prudent... but think his actions are shady. Maybe he will reply.
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