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post #46 of 62
I cannot belive why MB gets so much bad press, I have had no problems whatsoever with any of my MBs, and in my opinion they are the best cars money can buy, far better than any Bentley could ever be, although you do not get the looks, or the brand status, you get a car, which is flawless in every respect. The ride quality cannot even be matched by the Phantom or the Bentley Arnage T Red Label, in my S55 and my wife's S500, you just will not get the quietness or the stability (in cabin).
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Actually, I did mean that the S55 is much much better than the Bentley is, however just because it is handmade and has an impeccable finish, as a car its just is not so good. For a number of reasons, firstly, in the Mercedes, you hear the beautiful sound of a V12, but it is muted to such an extent that it has all the depth, just like a whisper. Then there is the seats, oh don't get me started on the seats, I mean what is with all that vulgar black piping on the Bentley. Let alone the fact that it feels like they are filled with foam, whereas in the Benz they are firm and support you well. Then there is handling, oh dear... Corner at 100 in the Benz as a passenger and you will not move from you upright position, in the Bentley you will at least be putting pressure on the seat belt, let alone being flung across the car. As a driver it gets worse, in the Bentley although I must say it is fast, it certainly isn't easy to get it going, cornering is a dire chore, and the sound can be a little uncouth at times. I will not deny that the Bentley's interior is pure opulence, and you sure get stares, but what is the point if it cannot get the basics right. As you may well know the Maybach is handmade, whereas the s class is machine made, yet the few people I know who have one say that the build quality is seldom different from the s class. I know I am going 'against the grain' but so be it - that is my opinion.
Now Jaguar, that is a car I can fault in every respect, I test drove the new XJR, and I was simply shocked and appauled as to why they could ask 60k for a car that felt like a go cart to drive, it was frankley no different to a Rover 75 (I've also driven one, another employees car, they always want to borrw my cars, and because I am such a nice guy, I end up letting them, and then I have to go home in the trash that I gave them). The space inside is appauling, a C Class is bigger, so I would not even want to be driven in it. And the damm noise, when I pay 60k I DO NOT expect it to sould the same as a beefed up boy-racers car, I mean come on, a loud fine tuned engine is nice, but it has to be refined, an you'd think they would do nomething about wind noise, I may aswell stand on the road.
post #47 of 62
I guess everyone has this jaded impression about Bentley and RR, because they are expenisve, but in truth very few people have actually driven one or been driven in one - and they can trust me on this, unless they are leting the price they paid make them feel that the car is good,you can definatley get better for less, but I must say the RR Phantom and Contential GT are much better than the old bunch.
post #48 of 62
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I guess everyone has this jaded impression about Bentley and RR, because they are expenisve, but in truth very few people have actually driven one or been driven in one - and they can trust me on this, unless they are leting the price they paid make them feel that the car is good,you can definatley get better for less, but I must say the RR Phantom and Contential GT are much better than the old bunch.
That may be the case with many people, since for them expensive = good, such a nonsense equation. I seriously think the new XJ8 is in many aspects a better car than the S-Class, jaded as I am from the previous MB ownership experiences. Yes, the Jag is not the picture of perfection; the new Audi A8 seems to be a much nicer car for the money. I have driven (unfortunately not owned) a Turbo R, both the old and new Corniche, an Azure and an Arnage, and have been a passenger in various RR and Bentley's including a Continental T and the new Phantom (must it be so ugly?), and while there are many nice qualities (the seats, small use of rain forest) and thick carpeting (the Continental T I was in had baseball-glove cross stitched seats, very cool); they are hardly the best automobile available. I wonder what the new GT is like. Regarding MB quality, my friends 2003 SL500 has computer problems once in a while and the two pieces of plastic that are at either end of the rear window have broken off (apparently that is a recall item). How's that for $97000? Jon.
post #49 of 62
Yeah, well I guess it is a silly topic, to discuss MBs quality, as you have had bad experinces, and I've had only good experinces. Do you not feel that the ride quality of the S-Class was far better than the XJ, problems aside? I don't like my A8, it's far to industrial and cheap in it's styling. The Continental GT is very nice though, as I said before. Better than a CL, and yes this is comming from me, a guy who says a S-Class is better than any older RR or Bentley by at least a million times.
post #50 of 62
Which car in your opinion is the perfect one?
post #51 of 62
The perfect car is whichever one I own at the particular time I am asked that question. There is no perfect car, each is good (well, some are worthless) for its own purpose, you can't race a Chevy Suburban, and at the same time you can't go off-road in a Ferrari. But I would say that for an everyday car, the BMW M3 (as a whole package) is hard to beat, regarding handling, power, comfort, quality, etc... The A8 might not be the best looking car in the world, but certainly it is better than the S500, no? Jon.
post #52 of 62
OK Guys- so how did we get on cars again in a clothing thread???
post #53 of 62
It's all imageWIS's fault.
post #54 of 62
From what it seems most Americans just cannot fit into Dior Homme. Either that or the style is too outre(at least for them). Just take a glance at US GQ, and say, Arena Homme Plus. However my version of "casualwear" comprises mostly of those brands. I.e. Gucci, Prada, etc. Fendi did do a fabulous db navy blazer for S/S 01' I believe. I have never worn shorts or brands like A&F, et al.
post #55 of 62
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I have never worn shorts
You must be from Northern California then, hey?
post #56 of 62
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You must be from Northern California then, hey?
Yes, but even if I lived in say, Egypt, I still would not wear shorts. Or khakis probably.
post #57 of 62
Labelking,
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However my version of "casualwear" comprises mostly of those brands. I.e. Gucci, Prada, etc. Fendi did do a fabulous db navy blazer for S/S 01' I believe.
I am certainly not accusing you guys of dressing like average Americans .
post #58 of 62
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I am certainly not accusing you guys of dressing like average Americans .  
Good, 'cause them would be fightin' words.
post #59 of 62
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true, but i see nothing wrong with looking better than some.  what if the higher ups dress like slobs?  where i work there are plenty of people over me who are wearing a jacket that's 15 years old they got at some cheesy department store for $99 and it shows.  should i, or anyone, strive to be below that?  that example is not an exaggeration.
Well, this is because you live in West Texas, where the oil field millionaires of Midland/Odessa and elsewhere in the Permian Basin are loathe to show off their wealth. They're like the late Sam Walton of Wal-Mart and his beat up ol' pick-up truck. Could you imagine our good friend kalra2411 moving to Midland with all his accoutrements? He'd be the talk of the town -- "that flashy fur-ner."
post #60 of 62
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It's all imageWIS's fault.
Then my plan to divert the thread has worked, muhahahahahaha. I was just curious about the Bentley GT, and apparently took a fork in the road (pun intended). Jon.
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