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post #46 of 61
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Yeah, not to beat them down, but despite being a GM owned dressed up Subaru, they are still considered exotic and Euro (and thus, I assume parts will cost Euro$, and mechanics will be relatively scarce) and with a sketchy future, I'm wary of putting money into one. As lame as most of the Subarus are (looks wise only, really) I feel a lot better buying one than something like that. I looked into it and if the Legacy's engine blows up, I should be able to get a JDM 2.5 NA replacement for under 1500, or a JDM 2.0t WRX-STi full package for ~4k. There's also the 2.0TT which apparently can be had (without trans) for ~1200 and is rated around 260HP. It seems like a decent deal for the long haul, esp. considering most of the engine swaps are a near-drop-in deal.
post #47 of 61
Physically the turbo engines are an easy drop in for the normally aspirated cars but the wiring can be a bit of an issue. Either very time consuming to do on your own or not that cheap to have done for you. Also the twin turbo setup doesn't work well in left hand drive cars because of the steering column, but its easy enough to swap to a single turbo setup.
post #48 of 61
I prefer a subaru. I own a WRX and never been disappointed really.

3 years and counting.
post #49 of 61
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Since there are some Subaru experts (relatively to me at least) reading here, there is a 2002 WRX wagon available with 181k "highway miles" on it. New timing belt and clutch. Would there be any reason to steer way clear of that? I'm assuming it would need some sort of work relatively soon - will this likely be catastrophic failure and/or very expensive stuff? I'm sure the resale value would be near nil after 200k, but I'm not sure. The other option I found is a Legacy Outback with 88k or so on it, which is where I'm leaning at the moment. It's a little less $ than the WRX and 100k miles less.
post #50 of 61
Will you be keeping it out back?
post #51 of 61
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Since there are some Subaru experts (relatively to me at least) reading here, there is a 2002 WRX wagon available with 181k "highway miles" on it. New timing belt and clutch. Would there be any reason to steer way clear of that? I'm assuming it would need some sort of work relatively soon - will this likely be catastrophic failure and/or very expensive stuff? I'm sure the resale value would be near nil after 200k, but I'm not sure.


At that mileage I'd be worried about the turbo and the CV joints. Turbo cars are fun, but turbos themselves are basically just really expensive wear items.
post #52 of 61
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Yeah, I think I'm ruling the turbos totally out at this point. Insurance will be more and low end torque where I will normally want power will be less. I've heard there is pretty noticeable lag on the WRX, which I could live with, but I'd rather not.
post #53 of 61
Any of these for sale on the used market are on sale for a REASON (something's wrong and will need to be fixed SOON). If the owner thinks "it's a great car and it rarely has problems" it wouldn't be for sale. Plan to match the purchase price in repairs within the 1st or 2nd year.
post #54 of 61
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Thanks for the optimism, but I have never had that bad of luck buying used cars. I always get them checked out by an independent mechanic and I can work on them myself which will save a lot of money if anything does go wrong. The especially nice thing on the newish Japanese cars is that the engine/trans can be completely replaced (parts cost) for only $2k or so, which is completely unheard of in, say, BMWs.
post #55 of 61
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I have had many Subarus, and they've held up ok. An Audi would probably last more miles. I had one Subaru's engine die around 125,000 miles. I'm around 140,000 on an Outback currently that's holding up ok, but I was a little sad that the other Outback didn't last much more than 100,000. I also have a WRX wagon that has about 80,000 miles that is running just fine.

I knew it! I just knew you were a lesbian.
post #56 of 61
Thread Starter 
So I found a decent deal and went for it. 2001 Forester S Premium (every option except leather because they didn't make leather seats with airbags in them) with 46k miles for ~$10k. Yeah, more than I said I wanted to spend, but extremely low miles and tons of features. Took it in to a shop near here and drove the guy crazy checking it out, but he said there's nothing that would keep him from buying the car, so it checks out solid. Very clean. I may do a bit to it to de-boringize it (brush guard, Hella rally lights, skid plate, etc.) but not much. If I want to make a real rally car I'll get something really cheap and start with that. Here's my new whip: About as cool looking as one of these can get, handles great, and I can't wait to try tossing it around in snow or gravel. Almost no minuses and only plusses compared to my last car.
post #57 of 61
VW Passat wagon.
post #58 of 61
Congrats J. Looks nice. Is it stick or automatic?
post #59 of 61
Isn't that an Oregon plate?
post #60 of 61
Thread Starter 
5 speed. Yes, I went to Portland to get the car. I will get it reg'd here when the title shows up in the mail.
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