Originally Posted by freshcutgrass
Oh right...I forgot...they were anti-Toronto jew comments. ha ha
I was completely thrown by how you concentrated on such a strange topic as jewish kids...very odd insight in overall terms of the city. But seeing as your exposure to Toronto is limited to Forest hill jewish kids going to Upper Canada College, I can see why. Which must mean you were (and still are) just a kid yourself.
Nobody would say such absurd things about Toronto unless you either don't have a clue, or do know, but pretend otherwise for silly reasons (like Montrealer envy-resentment).
The Toronto cracks are really a bit old. You like Montreal? Great...I like Montreal too. Only even Montrealers are tired of the usual anti-Toronto crap. We all know besides snow removal and french language, Toronto left Montreal in the dust a very long time ago in every catagory. And yes, that even means bagels (I'll take a Gryfe's any day).
I have no idea why you would make that suggestion...I did look, and it appears pretty much all of them tend to be confrontational, or just trying to impress people on the internet.
Look...I come here to have fun trading info/opinions on interesting things...not have these pointless fights. I won't claim total innocence in the matter, so meet me just 1/3 of the way, and I'm sure we can all be better SF people.
Montreal is far better than Toronto in night life, festivals, music, food, and sports. Those are things that matter to me most. You cannot argue with me on any of these grounds.
And no, my experience with the city goes beyond UCC. I point out toronto jews is because they are, to some torontonians (including the jamaicans I know from the volunteer work I did) and to Montrealers and even ontarians as close as Pickering or out in Thunder Bay, is that they are the equivalent of valley girls. Many people have experienced this. At McGill, almost every torontonian kid fits that description. All nice kids, just all very stereotypical, and yea, I found them mostly quite immature but harmless. Sorry dude, but Toronto isn't my thing. I hate the new opera house, the TSO is trash (Oundjian will hopefully get fired any day), the ROM could have been beautiful if they went for all glass, now it looks like a scrap pile, and in general I just find it to be a bland city culturally. Their big claim to fame are things like Carabana, which honestly, having been 5 times, I didn't find that fun compared to say, the Puerto Rican parade in NYC.
The only two areas I consider Toronto to be better are in shopping and TIFF. TIFF is probably my favourite film festival, but I haven't been able to attend South by Southwest yet so until I have, I cannot say it is the best major international festival.