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post #31 of 192
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Originally Posted by Berticus View Post
A good opening would be like, "Looks like the party is over here" (say to all the guys), then say to the target, "if I wasn't gay, you'd be so mine." Another good one is like, "Oh my gosh, did you see the two girls fighting outside?" And then make up a story right there on the spot.

Terrible, terrible advice. "Oh my gosh"? Really? "Gosh"? Come on...
post #32 of 192
When she's attracted to you, it won't matter. You can just play it off. For the record, I haven't completely read the Game. Not even the first 100 pages. The only alternative to memorizing openings is to do what I do, and that's to keep a curious and open mind, which is more difficult. Make quick observations and ask yourself questions to make yourself curious, then use that. The thing I'm taking from the book is how to pick up on direction. I didn't realize all of my possibilities until I started reading it. For example there was this one girl she and her group were about to leave, but I made a quick observation, asked myself a question, and approached her. I have no clue what I asked her or what was said, but within 5 minutes, while her friends kept on insisiting they leave, she insisted on staying and talking with me. In the end her friends were rushing us and all I got was a hug. If I had read this book, I would've asked for her number and a kiss good bye. Another example would be the time I introduced the game Three Man. I suppose I was unintentionally the wing man. As I distracted the other guys with this game, my roommate tried to talk to the girl there. Nothing happened between them though. A month later we were talking to a mutual friend, and he said she thought my roommate was a creep, but she was more interested in me. Actually all the girls thought I was interesting. But either way, I was totally clueless about what was happening and ended up drinking way too much. ---Edit--- I say gosh all the time, and nobody has a problem with it.
post #33 of 192
Gosh, this is a pathetic thread.
post #34 of 192
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Originally Posted by Berticus View Post
When she's attracted to you, it won't matter. You can just play it off.

For the record, I haven't completely read the Game. Not even the first 100 pages. The only alternative to memorizing openings is to do what I do, and that's to keep a curious and open mind, which is more difficult. Make quick observations and ask yourself questions to make yourself curious, then use that. The thing I'm taking from the book is how to pick up on direction. I didn't realize all of my possibilities until I started reading it.

For example there was this one girl she and her group were about to leave, but I made a quick observation, asked myself a question, and approached her. I have no clue what I asked her or what was said, but within 5 minutes, while her friends kept on insisiting they leave, she insisted on staying and talking with me. In the end her friends were rushing us and all I got was a hug. If I had read this book, I would've asked for her number and a kiss good bye.

Another example would be the time I introduced the game Three Man. I suppose I was unintentionally the wing man. As I distracted the other guys with this game, my roommate tried to talk to the girl there. Nothing happened between them though. A month later we were talking to a mutual friend, and he said she thought my roommate was a creep, but she was more interested in me. Actually all the girls thought I was interesting. But either way, I was totally clueless about what was happening and ended up drinking way too much.

---Edit---
I say gosh all the time, and nobody has a problem with it.

How old are you?

What you've shown yourself is that the more you talk to people, the more likely you are to be noticed. You picked that up from a book? Super, keep up that reading!
post #35 of 192
Golly gee willikers!
post #36 of 192
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Originally Posted by unjung View Post
How old are you?

What you've shown yourself is that the more you talk to people, the more likely you are to be noticed. You picked that up from a book? Super, keep up that reading!

No, what I picked up from the book was direction. I could've closed when I didn't. The talking and getting noticed happened before the book.
post #37 of 192
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No, what I picked up from the book was direction. I could've closed when I didn't. The talking and getting noticed happened before the book.
The best-case scenario from following The Game and the philosophy of the guy that inspired it is that you'll eventually start getting play anytime you want it. However, to do that, you really do have to fit a certain mold, that might not be you, you have to bullshit constantly, with no thought to how you'll extract yourself later (e.g. the "if I wasn't gay" thing; and what happens if you actually like the girl), and you're preying on a certain type of girl, who is relatively easy to hit regardless of whether you do the stock Keys to the VIP approach. It's shallow. And for most, if they stuck with it, would leave them lonely and confused at the end of the road.
post #38 of 192
You needed a book to tell you to ask a girl for her number?
post #39 of 192
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You needed a book to tell you to ask a girl for her number?

I remember when I was younger I was with an even younger friend on a flight back from Chicago with a friend. There were two girls sitting across the aisle from us and my friend insisted he sit in the aisle seat. I start talking to them and my friend joins in the conversation. One of the girls was interested in him so I told him to ask the girl for her number...

'Do you have like...a screen name?'
post #40 of 192
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I remember when I was younger I was with an even younger friend on a flight back from Chicago with a friend. There were two girls sitting across the aisle from us and my friend insisted he sit in the aisle seat. I start talking to them and my friend joins in the conversation. One of the girls was interested in him so I told him to ask the girl for her number... 'Do you have like...a screen name?'
Early on in college a girl gave me her AIM screen name. I never contacted her.
post #41 of 192
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post
Early on in college I had a girl give me her AIM screen name.

I never contacted her.

Had you read the book
post #42 of 192
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Originally Posted by unjung View Post
The best-case scenario from following The Game and the philosophy of the guy that inspired it is that you'll eventually start getting play anytime you want it. However, to do that, you really do have to fit a certain mold, that might not be you, you have to bullshit constantly, with no thought to how you'll extract yourself later (e.g. the "if I wasn't gay" thing; and what happens if you actually like the girl), and you're preying on a certain type of girl, who is relatively easy to hit regardless of whether you do the stock Keys to the VIP approach. It's shallow. And for most, if they stuck with it, would leave them lonely and confused at the end of the road.
Like I said, you take what you want from the book. You don't have to be exactly like them. I'm still gonna do what I do to get into conversations since there's nothing wrong with my approaches. What I do plan on getting from the book is closings and a better sense of direction. If people need a collection of openers, then they can get some ideas from the book. You aren't supposed to be another Mystery or Style. If you copy exactly what's happening in the book, then you're not being yourself, and you're not really taking anything from the book. If you don't want to be shallow, then you can take my approach or my friend's who uses stories. They're, for the most part, true stories. But he'll put a spin on them, exaggerate certain aspects.
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You needed a book to tell you to ask a girl for her number?
So what if I did? Now I see I got a lot of "IOI's" and I always took them to be meaningless. It's not to just get a girl's number, it's also to know when to back out. For example, my roommate was talking to a girl at a small party. He was having trouble, I came in and help get things moving along. In the end, I accidentally stole her. We were talking around him, she was leaning into me, touching me, all that, but completely ignored him. So he left. What I should've done after seeing a few IOI's was leave or somehow redirect her to him.
post #43 of 192
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Originally Posted by Berticus View Post
Game theory and marketing. Don't spoil your target, but don't completely ignore her. Walk into her group and make nice with all the guys so they won't cockblock you. However, don't get too comfortable, make it look like you're ready to leave at any moment. If she tries to grab your attention, neg her. Say how she's grabby, an attention whore or demanding. Phase two --- you isolate her and give her one on one time.

A good opening would be like, "Looks like the party is over here" (say to all the guys), then say to the target, "if I wasn't gay, you'd be so mine." Another good one is like, "Oh my gosh, did you see the two girls fighting outside?" And then make up a story right there on the spot.

Remember the characteristics of an alpha male:
  1. Good smile
  2. Confidence
  3. Well groomed
  4. Sense of Humor
  5. Social center

ugh this shit is so old... speaking as someone IN the community.

if you're inexperienced then you should hold off on giving public advice to people that is at least 3 years old and very out-of-date
post #44 of 192
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Originally Posted by flashback View Post
ugh this shit is so old... speaking as someone IN the community.

if you're inexperienced then you should hold off on giving public advice to people that is at least 3 years old and very out-of-date
Whoa... what is the up-to-date advice in this rapidly evolving field?
post #45 of 192
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Originally Posted by Berticus View Post
So what if I did? Now I see I got a lot of "IOI's" and I always took them to be meaningless. It's not to just get a girl's number, it's also to know when to back out. For example, my roommate was talking to a girl at a small party. He was having trouble, I came in and help get things moving along. In the end, I accidentally stole her. We were talking around him, she was leaning into me, touching me, all that, but completely ignored him. So he left. What I should've done after seeing a few IOI's was leave or somehow redirect her to him.
Please refrain from using pick up artist acronyms when conversing with people who do not follow your misguided ideology. I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.
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