The secret to success with women - Page 10

Oh come on! Give us a hint!!!

^^^I would not know what that was about if it weren't for that It's Always Sunny episode.

My friend always says any guy who refers to girls as "the ladies" does not get ass. I almost spit out my water when I read this. Can't believe I missed this thread.

I've been in a relationship for almost 2 years now but I noticed the other night when I went out that some guys were trying pick up artist stuff on the girls I was with. I never realized guys actually took this stuff seriously.

Its a classic! Helen Slater is so hot in a 1980's shoulder pads sort of way. I've never seen that show, by the way. So I don't know what was said about the movie. You should totally see it though.

People actually try this in real life?? How widespread is it? I've only read about PUA stuff on SF and it saddens and angers me. Hopefully it will become so widespread it will become like the salesman talking to you about your interests and fiddling his with his tie, then going back to the tie fiddling when closing the deal to make you feel good about it. Anyone trying it on will get soundly ridiculed.

I can't imagine any of the PUA manipulation techniques working on any girl who wasn't desperately drunk, needy or stupid. I can't imagine any guy with any integrity or self respect trying PUA tricks.

i read the book and knew alot of the lines, tried them out a bit. I found the ideas work well, but some of the gimmicky stuff doesnt work well at all.

So with that in mind i took a couple girls i was friends with to another friend's birthday party in philly, i forget the name of the bar but it was on the roof of a building, pretty cool setting. I knew a good portion of the people there and i was talking to two of the girls i knew.

This guy comes cruising through cuts me off mid sentence and says "hey girls, let me ask you a question...." i watched in amusement for a few moments and when he got to the part about picturing a box in the desert i started to cut in and finish all of his lines for him. He got frustrated dropped the act and the girls started laughing and walked away.

So he starts telling me about all of his great success with this stuff and about how if i hadnt cut him off (inspite of the fact he butted into my convo) he would have easily took the girls home and had a threesome.

So, i said, sounds like you know your stuff, i'll wing for you, and you do your thing. Needless to say this guy hadn't a fucking clue, and he botched every attempt that he ran into, after a few fuck ups he scurried off, and i went home with the girls i brought with me.

But who can pee the further away between an ITG and an ISG (internet seducer guy)?

If you are having trouble thinking of a "neg" can you just spit in her face or violently shake her by the shoulders and would this also count as "physical touch"?

oh he has a major boner for Nantucket Red

If you can tell a woman:" honey, go out with me and you'll never have to work a single day in your life." She's yours.

Of course, to make it works requires some effort on your part. If you have no money, try to find a way to get it. If you already have the money, well, you wouldn't be here in this thread.

whats worse. him spitting it out, or you finishing the lines for him? pot calling the kettle black?

I dunno Mike. I mean - and as I noted above - I am not a member of the PUA community in any sense, but I do think there is something to be said for it. Starters - it is very rare to see that attractive woman standing by herself...even if she is, it takes some plucking up of courage to march on over and introduce yourself. Cheeseball lines or not, we all know that to be true, and we have all felt it. A big part of what the PUA dudes teach is getting over that and teaching that 'she wont bite'. In that regard it is just a numbers game about plucking up the courage. You could make a point that we should all have learned that shit growing up, and you are probably right, but at the same time, we all know the feeling. More likely however she is there with 2-3 friends, and often with a male in the group. This is another dynamic - and it is totally a social situation that you are walking into cold - and again, these guys have developed their systems for dealing with that. As for the talking and listening - again - is there anyone who has NEVER hit the wall in a conversation with a woman? I remember first year at university in Australia sitting in the campus bar with a girl who I knew was into me and just finding myself with absolutely nothing to say. I am generally not particularly socially awkward, but I totally know the feeling. If Strauss et al have a bunch of topics that they know will get chicks chatting - and more importantly, and especially with Strauss - noting that self improvement and taking on stuff that makes you a more interesting person with more to say - helps someone out of that feeling I had in the Flinders Uni Tavern in 1994...then I am all for it.

I read "The Game" a couple of years ago. Pretty entertaining book, finished it in a night. However I cannot for the life of me remember any of the "techniques" other than thinking that they were pretty juvenile or absurd, with the exception the parts about body language and physical contact. That part stuck out to me because I know it works pretty well from experience.

That said, looking back on my history it seems that my approach to women is to be natural with no "plan" much like Dakota. I have never gone out planning on bagging a girl, but if I happen to meet one that I find attractive and intelligent then I like to at least get a number. It helps to have legitimate conversations with women about diverse and interesting topics. Be genuinely interested in them and what they have to say (good way to weed out the less than desirable women). Don't be afraid to laugh, make physical contact, keep good eye contact, don't be crass or rude, but don't be overly doting either.

I don't think I have "model" good looks but I've been told that I'm "attractive" among other flattering adjectives which I'm sure helps. Being very fit, well groomed, and my expanding sense of style probably doesn't hurt either, but they are things I've worked on for a very long time.

I'll probably get harassed for this but I must add a disclaimer that unlike most guys, I don't look to just "pick up" girls. I look for someone I think I could genuinely like and perhaps form a relationship with. I find that sex is much more enjoyable with someone you at least care about beyond just the physical attraction.

.....let the flaming begin

That's pretty much what these "systems" teach to those who have not figured this out yet - and there are many guys ike that!

No need to flame. Yes, I agree with you 100%.