Best daily multi-vitamin?

Originally Posted by pg600rr

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I did a search and this hasnt been discussed yet (atleast as far as I found). There are a few multi's dropped in the supplement thread but since it seems to be the base of a supplement regimen I wanted to get everyones personal experiences/opinions on which is the best.

I have been taking GNC Megamen multi on and off for a few years and have never really been happy with it, someone in the supp thread mention a multi from NOW nutrition called ADAm which looks like it may be good.

The best multi-vitamin is, without a doubt, Every Man by New Chapter Organics. I have been taking it for year and a half and haven't gotten so much as a cold since. It is real food, not synthetic, so you actually absorb it.

I use Once a day men's health.

Don't buy the ridiculous vitamins that give you 300% of vitamin x. You don't need anything more than 100% of the recommended daily intake.

Here's a good read...http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12842321/

Having spent quite a bit of time over on the imminst.org forums (where they take their vitamins VERY seriously), I can tell you that the consensus is that AOR Ortho-Core is the undisputed best multi. Of course, most of those people (and me) are taking a lot of other things in addition to a multi.

How about just eating a decent diet?

Vitamins are a sign of weakness!

Not quite true. A mere fraction of synthetic vitamins are actually absorbed, so that 3000% DRV you just took of vitamin C will most likely only provide you 50%. I'm making those numbers up, but you get the idea. Unless your vitamins are from whole food sources, then yeah, 300% of any water soluble vitamin is far from ridiculous.

Originally Posted by suited

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I use Once a day men's health. Don't buy the ridiculous vitamins that give you 300% of vitamin x. You don't need anything more than 100% of the recommended daily intake. Here's a good read...http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12842321/
A decent diet? In the United States? Impossible, even if you eat all the right things.

How about just eating a decent diet?

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I don't take multis, I think they are a waste. I get my vitamins from spirulina and chlorella superfoods. For minerals I take a zinc tab every day or every other day, and a teaspoon of magnesium citrate.

what makes a good vitamin a good vitamin is how much of the nutrients your body actually absorbs. there is actually a book that rates vitamin brands based on scientific tests of efficacy and absorption (which I don't have, unfortunately). I hear Centrum was one of the worst with something like 5% absorption. So I think even if a vitamin says it provides a certain amount of vitamin, even if that's true going in, if you lose most of it, you're not getting much at all.

I hear Kirkland (Costco brand) is the equivalent of Centrum. Needless to say, I stopped taking both.

Originally Posted by javyn

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A decent diet? In the United States? Impossible, even if you eat all the right things.

Technically, it is possible, but you'd need to be excessively rich to be able to buy non-contaminated fish and organic, free-range, grass fed beef, etc. Each meal would run about $50.

I used to know a guy who sweared by this guy:

http://www.drwhitaker.com/

I bought a box of vitamin packs from them at one time. I can't say I noticed any difference between those and the packs I can get from GNC, but I would not call that conclusive.

Apologies in advance for the dogmatic assertion--this is a subject in which I'm fairly well versed.

The only vitamin pills worth ingesting are produced by the Grow Company (http://www.growco.us/gc_index.html).

Optimal micronutrient intake would consist of/include the following:

http://www.foodform.com/

Food Form Manna (6 tablets)
Food Form Bone Nourisher Supreme (6 tablets)

https://www.natures-own.co.uk/

Biofood Magnesium (3 tablets)

Optional:

Food Form Empower (1 tablet)

Food Form Vitamin C-300 (4 tablets)


R.B.

Honestly, you are likely to be disappointed if you expect any multi to make a noticeable difference in your day to day life. This doesn't mean that you shouldn't take one or that you should just take any old cheap one--it just means that the effects are gradual and the benefits accrue over years, not days.

Originally Posted by Rand B

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The only vitamin pills worth ingesting are produced by the Grow Company (http://www.growco.us/gc_index.html).

Although I'm unfamiliar with this company--and they may be very good--I'd have to disagree with your statement above, even with your caveat as to dogma. To be sure, there are a number of companies manufacturing crap, but there are also several very reputable ones. For instance, AOR Ortho-Core is considered excellent, as are products by LEF.

Beverly International Super Pak - ~ $20.00

Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 1 Pak
Servings Per Container: 30
Amount Per Serving \t
\t% USRDA
One Vitamin A and D capsule (small) Provides: \t
Vitamin A (Fish Oil ) 10,000 I.U. \t200%
Vitamin D ( fish Oil) 1340 % 400 I.U. \t100%
One Time Released Vitamin B Complex (yellow) Provides: \t
Vitamin B1 (as Thiamine Hydrochloride) 150 mg
\t10000%
Vitamin B2 (as Riboflavin) 150 mg \t8823%
Niacin (as Niacinamide) 150 mg \t7500%
Vitamin B6 (as Pyridoxine Hydrochloride ) 150 mg \t7500%
Folate (as Folic Acid) 400 mcg \t100%
Vitamin B12 (as Cyanocobalamin) 150 mcg \t2500%
Biotin 150 mcg \t50%
Pantothenic Acid 150 mg \t1500%
Choline (as Choline bitartrate) 150 mg \t"
Inositol 150 mg \t"
Para-Aminobenzoic Acid 50 mg \t"
One time-released Vitamin C Supreme Tablet (large Beige) Provides: \t
Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid with rose hips) 1000 mg \t1667%
Citrus Bioflavonoids Complex (4x concentrate) 500 mg \t"
Rutin 75 mg \t"
Hesperidin Complex 75 mg \t"
Acerola 75mg \t"
One Time-released Vitamin C with Rose Hips (beige) provides: \t
Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) 1,000mg \t1667%
One Large Vitamin E Capsule Provides: \t
Vitamin E (Mixed Tocopherols) 1000 I.U \t3333%
Two Mineral Tablets (gray) Provides: \t
Vitamin D (Fish Liver Oil) 400 I. U \t100%
Calcium (Hydrolized Protein Chelate) 1000 mg \t100%
Iron (Hydrolized Protein Chelate) 18 mg \t%
Iodine (kelp) 150 mcg \t100%
Magnesium (Hydrolized Protein chelate) 500 mg \t125%
Zinc (Hydrolized Protein Chelate) 22.5 mg \t150%
Selenium (Yeast) 10 mcg \t14%
Copper (Hydrolized Protein Chelate) 3.0 mg \t150%
Manganese (Hydrolized Protein Chelate) 10 mg \t500%
Chromium (Hydrolized Protein Chelate) 200 mcg \t166%
Chloride 90 mg \t2%
Potassium (Hydrolized Protein Chelate) 95 mg \t2%
Betaine Hydrochloride 100 mg \t"
Glutamic Acid 100 mg \t"
One Selenium Tablet (round beige) Provides: \t
Selenium 70 mcg \t100%
One Digestive Enzyme Tablet (small round speckled white) Provides: \t
Betaine Hydrochloride 180 mg \t"
Pepsin 40 mg \t"
Papain 50 mg \t"
Ox Bile 120 mg \t"
Pancreatin 60 mg \t"
Mycozyme 60 mg \t"
" Daily Value not established

I've done GNC, Centrum, etc., but I really prefer Optimum Nutrition Opti-Men. It is definitely catered toward someone who is regularly active and preferably someone who works out in some form or another at least a few times a week. Also, drink a good amount of water, but I can't really think of anything to which a solution/answer isn't to drink lots of liquids/water.

caphill:

Thank you for your polite comments. I should say that when I make a post on this forum in reply to another's entreaty, it is with a high degree of authority and conviction. Asthe subject of "best" was broached, I felt obligated to offer my knowledge of that. In this case, as the best is not an incremental evolution (of synthetic isolates) but rather an integrated whole of a fundamentally different and novel nature, I consider the former to be a dinosaur who finds his size has become a liability in a changing world.

R.B.