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post #76 of 87
No alcohol, no drugs, no tobacco and no sex? Fun? Yeah, sounds like real fun to me. Not only would I have to stop doing these things but also dress like a retard? Oh I do say, the world is indeed turning into a better place, no?


I'm gonna get a drink. In my bar. Right now.
post #77 of 87
I had a bunch of SE friends in high school. All but one were not SE within 3 months of college. I think that last one is still holding out, but I can't even confirm that...
post #78 of 87
This is fascinating... I didn't know much about the movement, though I had a "Straight Edge" friend years ago... seems there was some humour about, though I suppose lots of people missed it. http://www.uncarved.org/blog/2005/02/punk-comics-3/
post #79 of 87
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Originally Posted by Patrician View Post
No alcohol, no drugs, no tobacco and no sex? Fun? Yeah, sounds like real fun to me. Not only would I have to stop doing these things but also dress like a retard? Oh I do say, the world is indeed turning into a better place, no?


I'm gonna get a drink. In my bar. Right now.

Actually.... I always considered it to be no unloving sex... Rather than no sex at all. So I guess I fuc#ed up. Too much Minor Threat i guess.

I was the vegan sXe for many years when i was a kid. Maybe 16-22 years old. What made it enjoyable was being part of a social scene and going to all the shows and that type of thing. The social aspects and the music kind of offset the drugs, alcohol, etc...

But once I was 22 and had my first beer and cig and some grass (didnt inhale) then the entire sXe thing was over with. I even went and had an In N Out cheeseburger.

I think sXe is good for the teen angst time period in life... but it gets old quickly as you mature into adult hood.

I have a co-worker ( a hot blonde) who is a vegan sXe and she is 26 years old. I have conversations with her, etc... but i think she is nuts for still embracing that ideology. To me, it is kind of childish.

Sometimes i listen to that old music... the Gorilla Biscuits, Minor Threat, Youth of Today or whatever... and i laugh my a$$ off. So much angst and anger
post #80 of 87
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Originally Posted by warlok1965 View Post
I loved SE bands and several of my friends drew Xs on their hands in the 80s, but I always allowed myself permission to party occasionally and never shaved my head or any of that shite. What really made me think "this is fucking lame" is when all the SE skins jumped on the hare krishna bandwagon. Jeez.


Yah... i remember when my friends started talking about the band Shelter... so i went out a purchased the first Shelter record i could find. I got home.. put the record on my record player and it was just a bunch of guys singing "hare krishna, hare krishna, krishna krishna hare hare"... i was sooooo mad that i had used my allowance money to buy that. I was expecting hardcore... and i got chanting.

I did shave my head... and put the X's on my hand and wore canvas sneakers (leather is murder... at that time anyway) and did all the other aspects that were part of the mindless pack behavior.
post #81 of 87
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Originally Posted by JSC4President View Post
...had my first beer and cig and some grass (didnt inhale) then the entire sXe thing was over with. I even went and had an In N Out cheeseburger...it gets old quickly as you mature into adult hood... I.i think she is nuts for still embracing that ideology. To me, it is kind of childish... and i laugh my a$$ off.

Weak.

Some of my very good friends are Edge breakers. I can deal with the fact that, over the years, most of the kids I've chilled with have sold right out. Most people who I knew who were Edge when I first started going to hardcore shows now, aren't now. And, while I often think they've made the wrong choice, because a lot of them are visibly being fucked up by drug use now, it's their life, and they're still my friends.

But, there's nothing necessarily immature about rejecting drug and alcohol use. Hardcore punk isn't teen angst. If that's all it was to you, then you were just one of the no heart, no soul kids that half the bands in hardcore call out and mock. More than that, Straight Edge isn't a maturity thing. It's not mature to start making the same mistakes as your parents. I have vegan Edge friends and acquaintances with families, kids, and careers. I can't keep a relationship, but, fuck, I'm a lawyer, and I'm still Straight Edge. When I go to a show now, I feel a bit like a grandad, but I still hold the same beliefs and hold true to my commitments.

If you're Edge for good, well thought out reasons, maturity will only deepen that.

I'd rather spend Friday night hanging with the boys with tattoos all over talking shit and drinking Cola than at an indie geek bar with a bunch of "mature" kids who talk shit about my lifestyle whenever I'm not in the room. I have no time for holier than thou bullshit.

If you were vegan Straight Edge because it was what the group did, I'm glad you broke. I don't want this to be big because it's cool; I want it to be meaningful. I'm vegan because it is a healthy, ethical, and ecologically sensible lifestyle. I'm Edge because I don't want to be intoxicated and I don't see the point of drugs or alcohol.

About the only sensible thing you said was that Edge never meant no sex.
post #82 of 87
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Originally Posted by Luddite View Post
Weak.

Some of my very good friends are Edge breakers. I can deal with the fact that, over the years, most of the kids I've chilled with have sold right out. Most people who I knew who were Edge when I first started going to hardcore shows now, aren't now. And, while I often think they've made the wrong choice, because a lot of them are visibly being fucked up by drug use now, it's their life, and they're still my friends.

But, there's nothing necessarily immature about rejecting drug and alcohol use. Hardcore punk isn't teen angst. If that's all it was to you, then you were just one of the no heart, no soul kids that half the bands in hardcore call out and mock. More than that, Straight Edge isn't a maturity thing. It's not mature to start making the same mistakes as your parents. I have vegan Edge friends and acquaintances with families, kids, and careers. I can't keep a relationship, but, fuck, I'm a lawyer, and I'm still Straight Edge. When I go to a show now, I feel a bit like a grandad, but I still hold the same beliefs and hold true to my commitments.

If you're Edge for good, well thought out reasons, maturity will only deepen that.

I'd rather spend Friday night hanging with the boys with tattoos all over talking shit and drinking Cola than at an indie geek bar with a bunch of "mature" kids who talk shit about my lifestyle whenever I'm not in the room. I have no time for holier than thou bullshit.

If you were vegan Straight Edge because it was what the group did, I'm glad you broke. I don't want this to be big because it's cool; I want it to be meaningful. I'm vegan because it is a healthy, ethical, and ecologically sensible lifestyle. I'm Edge because I don't want to be intoxicated and I don't see the point of drugs or alcohol.

About the only sensible thing you said was that Edge never meant no sex.
Yeah riiiiiiiiight.
post #83 of 87
Fun and Straight Edge= tall order.

Anger, bitterness and disenchantment aren't nice party favors.
post #84 of 87
Old Timer alert:

You can be SxE and have fun at end of March in SoCal

Former great hardcore bands from late 80s are reforming to do this one show:

No For An Answer
Chorus of Disapproval
Head First
Amenity

should be great, and hope to see some familiar faces I havent seen in like 20 years
post #85 of 87
+1 yes
post #86 of 87
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Originally Posted by constant struggle View Post
This band Ceremony from california covered this song with Davie Havok of AFI, there is a Youtube video somewhere, it is actually pretty cool... Ceremony is legit, and it is nice to see Davie Havok still going to local hardcore shows... If someone could find the video and post it, you should, I am at work so no youtube.


first show i'd been to in quite awhile happened to be that show. :P
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post #87 of 87
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Originally Posted by Mauro View Post
^^^WTF

I was straight edge from 85 to 96 . some of my fondest memories were of that time.

^ Somehow I have a hard time imagining you as SxE.

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