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post #1306 of 1451
just wanted to share: so I got a new pair of japanese denims that I think would appeal to the mc crowd who might be interested in japanese selvedge denim but wants a a medium waist and a roomier fit...

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post #1307 of 1451
Hello again. I'm back with another question. As I mentioned before, my problem with the Levi's 511 is that I liked the fit initially, but it became a little too loose in the seat, hips, and thighs after a while. If I can't go down another waist size, is my only option to get a difference cut of jeans?

On that note, If I got the selvedge denim version of the Levi's 511, would I get the same amount of loosening, or does the higher quality denim make a difference there? (I emailed them and they said this pair doesn't fade any faster than normal so that's not an issue.) Thanks.
post #1308 of 1451
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Originally Posted by Liquidus View Post

Hello again. I'm back with another question. As I mentioned before, my problem with the Levi's 511 is that I liked the fit initially, but it became a little too loose in the seat, hips, and thighs after a while.

How long is a while? I mean, are they stretching out over a single day or something? Do they not return to their initial size after you wash them?
post #1309 of 1451
Yes, they do shrink to an ideal size when I wash them, but will loosen up after about a week of wear. I could wash them every week, but that would make it fade faster, which I would like to avoid if possible.
post #1310 of 1451
bump in hopes of someone answering my question
post #1311 of 1451
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Originally Posted by Liquidus View Post

Hello again. I'm back with another question. As I mentioned before, my problem with the Levi's 511 is that I liked the fit initially, but it became a little too loose in the seat, hips, and thighs after a while. If I can't go down another waist size, is my only option to get a difference cut of jeans?

Traditionally, in brands like APC, you would buy a pair that you could barely button; in a week or so it'd stretch to where you love them. I don't think Sears bought Levis work that way.

If you want to stick with Levis, look at the many options of Levis Vintage Collection, say the 1966 or the 1947.
post #1312 of 1451
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@ whodini:
After I bought this one, I went to another store where I saw RRL; I was suprised to see them in NL. Good stuff? They were €270,– frown.gif.
Assuming you saw the raw stuff, RRL starts off at $220 USD but I've heard of it going for nearly double in the UK so €270 sounds about right. It's great stuff, one of the few brands I really recommend for the price, but it's more of a "bargain" for Americans. If you knew your size, you could always find a pair on US ebay.
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Originally Posted by Liquidus View Post

Hello again. I'm back with another question. As I mentioned before, my problem with the Levi's 511 is that I liked the fit initially, but it became a little too loose in the seat, hips, and thighs after a while. If I can't go down another waist size, is my only option to get a difference cut of jeans?
Basically, yes. It takes some trial and error to learn the difference between a cut that doesn't work for you and a cut that is just slightly off and can be resolved through sizing. This is one reason why I don't like recommending APC.
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Originally Posted by Liquidus View Post

On that note, If I got the selvedge denim version of the Levi's 511, would I get the same amount of loosening, or does the higher quality denim make a difference there? (I emailed them and they said this pair doesn't fade any faster than normal so that's not an issue.) Thanks.
Selvage stretches, too, so no, it won't make much of a difference.
post #1313 of 1451

 

Is this too pointy to wear with slim straight dark jeans ? 

 

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post #1314 of 1451
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post #1315 of 1451
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Is this too pointy to wear with slim straight dark jeans ? 

 

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No way. Brown bluchers + Jeans. Perfect
post #1316 of 1451

Nice bluchers, aldej.

post #1317 of 1451
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Originally Posted by Liquidus View Post

Hello again. I'm back with another question. As I mentioned before, my problem with the Levi's 511 is that I liked the fit initially, but it became a little too loose in the seat, hips, and thighs after a while. If I can't go down another waist size, is my only option to get a difference cut of jeans?

Why can't you go to a smaller waist size?
post #1318 of 1451
Because they won't fit anymore at the hips. I assume that there is no way to stretch out the waist beyond what it normally stretches out to.
post #1319 of 1451
I assume you know that they won't fit anymore in the hips because you've tried on and worn a size down, right?

I have a pair or two of jeans that I don't wear often because they're simply too tight on my hips, but then they're also fairly tight in the top block in general, even after ~20 wears. That's different from being tight in the hips but loose everywhere else.

The problem I'm having with recommending you a different cut is that I'm not sure how you wear your jeans or how you expect them to ultimately fit.

Most people go for a fit that is initially snug so that it stretches out comfortably; this usually means an allowance of ~1-2" in the waistband, which is completely normal because with wear jeans sit lower on your hips. So assuming you don't pick a cut that's super slim, it's typically very easy to go down one more size if you're trying to bring the waistband closer to an intended target spot. There are a couple of cuts where this won't work because of how the jeans are graded, but the 511s don't strike me as one of those cuts.

I suppose the next alternative would be to go for a slightly more relaxed cut with the idea of sizing down more than intended so that they end up fitting like a slimmer jean. I tend not to recommend this route because you could ultimately end up with more fit issues, but whatever works for you...
post #1320 of 1451
I actually have not tried a 30W yet (currently have a tagged 31W), but I will before looking for a different cut. The tagged 31W (stretched out to 32 now) is pretty tight where I wear them on my hips, so I'm guessing a 30W, even if it stretches out one inch, will end up higher on my hips. I wouldn't mind this except that I get the "wedgie" effect if I wear my 511s too high. I'll see how it goes though.
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