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Looking for a black pair that can would work with everything from jeans and a sportcoat to khakis and a dressed-down dress shirt. I love the look of the driving loafers, especially the JP Tods, but I wonder (having never tried them on) if they are the right style for my purposes. I see them on Ebay often so I'll keep my eyes peeled, they tend to go between $130-200 which is reasonable I suppose. Others I have seen making something similiar are To Boot, Pliner, Ferragamo, but none have that certain something that the Tods do.