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Are you SURE Grensons aren't made by Edward Green?

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When I first saw the identical "Made in England" soles, I thought the similarity was odd. I have just bought Grenson monkstraps and they are literally the same - I mean identical - to the Edward Green monkstraps for Ralph Lauren on the 89 last. Down to the last stitch. Are we sure these companies are independent? If so, how can Grenson (or EG) copy each other's shoes?
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By any chance these aren't the 10.5D shoes?  These shoes are toxic, rumor has it that they were made from Chernobyl leather.  They cause irrepairable harm that no amount of Viagra can cure.  Send them hither, as I know a proper way of disposing of them.  Remember only the 10.5Ds. and if you have any edward greens in the same size, just realize that those are now cross contaminated too. But yours truly can take care of that for you.
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When I first saw the identical "Made in England" soles, I thought the similarity was odd. I have just bought Grenson monkstraps and they are literally the same - I mean identical - to the Edward Green monkstraps for Ralph Lauren on the 89 last.  Down to the last stitch. Are we sure these companies are independent?  If so, how can Grenson (or EG) copy each other's shoes?
It is not surprising that your Grensons and EG's have the same sole. I have a pair of C&J Handgrade shoes with identical two-tone soles to some of my EG's. Although it is not as common as it used to be, I think some of the Northhampton shoe manufacturers still out-source some of their work. There have been threads here about John Lobb of St. James doing this with respect to their bespoke shoes. They also buy some of the identical materials, including soles. Years ago, when there were numerous smaller suit makers in NYC, quite a number of them only made the jackets and outsourced the trousers to Majer or Corbin.
post #4 of 7
I have also seen many shoes on sale here with the same type of sole, but otherwise with different brands, and they are brands I have not even heard of. But the thing is, it seems both shoes do not have just the same sole, but every other property as well. WJTW
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I have also seen many shoes on sale here with the same type of sole, but otherwise with different brands, and they are brands I have not even heard of. But the thing is, it seems both shoes do not have just the same sole, but every other property as well. WJTW
Yeah, EG and Grenson share the soles, the inner oval inside with the sizing information. I think it's very strange, especially when some of their styles are absolutely identical.
post #6 of 7
Well, that's a very simple monkstrap design. The Crockett and Jones version sold as Peal looks extremely similar too. I daresay most classic shoemakers offer a very similar version.
post #7 of 7
I promise they are not made by anyone other than GRENSON. Grenson Web Site
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