You guys are out of your collective minds. I first bought a pair of these (calfskin though, not cordovan) when I was a senior in college and had serious real job interviews to go to. I also bought my first real suit at Brooks. Both were great purchases. They made me look more mature than my beer-drinking years, and it wasn't at all lost on me that at least half of the lawyers in the law firms I was interviewing at (for a legal assistant position) were wearing similar or identical shoes. These shoes helped them think, hey, this guy's one of us -- he'll fit in. I wore those shoes for 10 or more years, getting them resoled multiple times. I loved them; but finally, after law school, I donated them to the thrift shop, as the leather was cracking pretty badly. These are NOT shoes to party in, of course. Not shoes to go "clubbing" in, although I did plenty of dancing and drinking in mine at happy hours, weddings, etc. They are shoes that are serious and businesslike and relatively conservative, yet not as serious and conservative as lace-ups. Get them, you won't regret it.