Best Speaker Cables? - Page 14

The subject of this thread is akin to a neighbor asking if he can come over and screw your wife. Nothing but trouble, unless you're a little kinky.

How much was your power cord?

You are just grasping here Andre. The ac cord position and gear were all the same. The outlet was the same.

I was hoping you might provide some backup here.

Completely incorrect. I do not believe in any of the cable bullshit. I use Radioshack's higher end cables because they are constructed well (unlike a pair of Monster cables I had where one of the RCA connectors simply fell off). I did, on the other hand, recently acquire a pair of B&W Nautilus 802s. They sound a lot better than what's at Best Buy.

You are using 802s with Rat Shack cable? I think that's a good illustration of what I am up against here on Slander Forum.

Not very catchy.

Should we help Artifran invent a new name for Styleforvm? Bileforum?

Credit where credit is due.

Agreed, not one of my better efforts. I'm open to suggestions.

If you're going to bring in secondary effects like cables, power cords, and picosecond jitter sensitivity, then all these other factors are just as important, if not more so. For example, if you believe that power cable shielding is important, then the position and orientation of the cable becomes important because EMI susceptibility depends on those things. If you believe that crystal grain boundaries are important, then the shape of the cable and how many times it's been bent and which way it's been bent is very important.

Component variations (in resistors, caps, and ICs) alone cause bigger deviations than any of these supposed effects, even for identical designs! Temperature changes in the atmosphere cause bigger changes. How do you account for any of these things?

It always amazes me that people worry so much about these fringe effects when there are much bigger fundamental problems in their systems that go unfixed. For example, you have a coffee table in the middle of your listening room between you and the speakers. The reflections off that table is several orders of magnitude higher than any of these crazy-ass cable effects you're trying to solve. Your tube amp's output impedance is so high that the frequency response distortion on your speakers completely dwarfs any effect a speaker cable (even one suspended on styrofoam cups) could have. If you can't hear that distortion, I'm not sure what business you have trying to hear artifacts more than 100 dB below it.

The gaping chasm between real problems and these fringe problems is like worrying about the number of plies of the thread in the stitches of an interior pocket's buttonhole when the suit you're wearing is 10 sizes off.


There is nothing inherently wrong with using RatShack cables with 802s. Are you now going to assert your own opinion over someone's experience?

--Andre

Honestly, AF, do you ever think you'll change the minds around here? Kudos for you for the attempt, though. But really, if you hear differences, more power to you. I was just interviewed about audiophiles/high end audio for a Podcast and actually mentioned a couple of these threads, but not the forum. I can PM you the link if you like. Cheers...

Sure, send the link. Thanks.

I'm just trying to share some of what I have learned in audio but it doesn't seem to be valued.

Didn't you know that ArtisanFran is a AC/DC kinda guy?