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post #8911 of 14986
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In their travels on ebay recently, anyone find anything interesting (other than allen edmonds) in a 13??

The foot size is a bit of a curse...

a bit larger than 13 (a Martegani 14)
Ron occasionally has larger sizes in nice shoes at insane prices
He is VERY responsive to questions and service is first rate
post #8912 of 14986
I ended up buying the same pair (but smaller size) from him later that night and received the following response when asking him about them being masterpiece: Me: these really masterpiece? haven't seen that marking on the bottom of masterpiece shoes when researching. Seller: Hi as stated these are made to order shoes for up market retail outlet. These are Grade 1 shoes. I cannot con people because i am a genuine shop and i want your repeat business. So please trust me. Regards.
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We may have been talking about 2 different shoes - I'm talking about these: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=300202141399 the same seller also has spectators. Anyway, the tan austerity brogues have a rose and the last half of grenson on the sole.
post #8913 of 14986
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Originally Posted by NoVaguy View Post
We may have been talking about 2 different shoes - I'm talking about these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=300202141399

the same seller also has spectators.

Anyway, the tan austerity brogues have a rose and the last half of grenson on the sole.

Yes, I see now that the austerity brogues and the black/white spectators have that "rose" logo.

Others from the same seller have what appears to be a logo reminiscent of the Paul Stuart logo:

Shoes -- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Grensons-Maste...QQcmdZViewItem

Paul Stuart site w/logo -- http://www.paulstuart.com/home.cfm
post #8914 of 14986
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Originally Posted by rioni View Post
I ended up buying the same pair (but smaller size) from him later that night and received the following response when asking him about them being masterpiece:

Me: these really masterpiece? haven't seen that marking on the bottom of masterpiece shoes when researching.

Seller: Hi as stated these are made to order shoes for up market retail outlet. These are Grade 1 shoes. I cannot con people because i am a genuine shop and i want your repeat business. So please trust me. Regards.

I don't necessarily think those are Rose Collection, but they are most definitely not Masterpiece shoes. Grenson makes shoes for the Japanese market that look like neither the Rose Collection shoes nor Masterpiece shoes.

Rose Collection shoes are not close-channeled, as the pair being discussed is. However, the sole treatment is much nicer on Masterpiece shoes than on the shoes in question. Also, Masterpiece shoes will always have either the "Made in England" script on the sole or the little Stuart's Choice logo, if made for Paul Stuart, which those clearly do not have.

While it's possible that he just doesn't know enough about Grensons to tell the difference between Masterpiece and these made for the Japanese market shoes, I think there may be more at play here. Explanation to come after the pictures.

Here's some pics of the soles of the types of shoes I've described (all grabbed from ebay auctions):

Masterpiece w/ Made in England script


Masterpiece w/ Stuart's Choice logo


Rose Collection


Japanese-market


Shoes in question


You can see the difference in the soles among these shoes. I suspect that the shoes in question have the full rubber heel, like the other Japanese-market shoes pictured. It appears that the seller has deliberately covered this up in his auction picture to hide this obvious tell-tale sign of an inferior quality shoe.

So, is he conning you? I don't know. But it sure looks fishy that all is other auctions show the full heel in his pictures. But this shoe, which is the only one without a combination heel, is perfectly covered up.
post #8915 of 14986
Nice Kiton Suede/Cashmere/Vicuna reversible coat. Very low bids so far...

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-and-rare-147...QQcmdZViewItem
post #8916 of 14986
bromer, thanks for the grenson 411! Looks like the Stuart's Choice Masterpiece Spectators are selling for about $200. Not bad, considering the quality of the shoe. But, how is the price for a spectator?
post #8917 of 14986
Those boots are sweet.
post #8918 of 14986
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Originally Posted by gumercindo View Post
bromer, thanks for the grenson 411! Looks like the Stuart's Choice Masterpiece Spectators are selling for about $200. Not bad, considering the quality of the shoe. But, how is the price for a spectator?

$200 for a Masterpiece shoe is a good price. I think anything below $300 is probably a good deal. As for a spectator, it's a good price if it's a shoe you are missing in your collection. But if you are looking to build a shoe collection, it's probably best to save the $200 and wait for a more versatile and useful shoe. Something you are looking for will pop up eventually.
post #8919 of 14986
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post #8920 of 14986
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Originally Posted by grimslade View Post
Those boots are sweet.

You damn them with faint praise!
post #8921 of 14986
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Originally Posted by swoobie View Post
Nice Kiton Suede/Cashmere/Vicuna reversible coat. Very low bids so far...

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-and-rare-147...QQcmdZViewItem

Very nice coat but doresn't belong in the "Re: Cool Shoes, Paraphernalia & Desiderata" thread.

Should be in "ebay suits, sportcoats, and other clothing" thread

It's 10% Vicuna/ 90% Cashmere. I wonder if its really about a $14,000 MSRP?

Any Kiton experets with an opinion?
post #8922 of 14986
GVH has a pair of C&J for Polo Redding II Chelsea boots 10D for $330 BIN. They're handgrade on the 337 last. If they were anything but black, they would be gone.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...E:B:SS:US:1123
post #8923 of 14986
nice find, if they were 11.5, they'd be gone...
post #8924 of 14986
GVH quotes them as benchmade, isnt the 337 handgrade ... So RL has them made bench?
post #8925 of 14986
They are not 337. But they have channeled soles and are closer to handgrade than benchgrade quality, IME.
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