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post #6586 of 14986
Potentially good news on the Keith Highlanders: There's been a correction to the remaining auctions.

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CORRECTION: THESE SHOES ARE MADE BY KEITH HIGHLANDER UNFORTUNATLEY IT DOES NOT SAY KEITH HIGHLANDER ON THE SHOE OR THE BOX. THE QUALITY IS AMAZING. The Keith Highlanders are very nice shoes made in the USA, leather lined, leather outsoles top quality, like J&M or Florsheim Imperial. They were actually made in New England by the Walk Over shoes company. The 500 series are also made in the USA leather sole by the Walk Over Company, the are grain leather uppers, leather lined and leather outsole with a cushion rubber heel. The 373's are the same uppers and linings but with a long lasting vinyl outsole and cushion rubber heel. These shoes are not light and flimsy but full of guts and all are made in the USA, the shoes have great support because of the way these shoes are engineered and the lacing supports your foot.

I like the sound of that, particularly the "not light and flimsy but full of guts." Many of the really shoddy vintage shoes I've handled felt almost hollow.
post #6587 of 14986
Here's an interesting thread on Walk Over, with some helpful comments from Ron:

http://www.styleforum.net/showthread...ight=Walk+Over
post #6588 of 14986
I think there's a good chance these shoes are made by dexter shoes, from that previous thread:

"Watch out for Dexter, they bought the name when the company went out of biz."

and there's this site: link which is selling both dexter and keith highlander shoes, so that leads me to believe that the keith highlander shoes are still being produced (by dexter). Looking at the shoes at dexter, I think $35 is still a pretty decent deal, but not the steal some were hoping for.

This is probably one of the nicer models at dexter, and the most similar I guess. It has a retail of $170, so my guess is that the $120 price for the highlanders is the actual price right now.

dexter shoes wingtip

Some of the reviews are pretty good, so it seems that even if it's not what was first expected, it might still be a pretty decent shoe. On the bright side, this thread is the first thing that pops up on google. We could do a mass revision and probably make a good deal of money on ebay :P

Or, Yahoo Japan seems to be a pretty decent market place for them. Anyway, for $35 you can't go that wrong (although closet shelf space might be a bigger concern =/)

Edit: I might have to take all of that back.. Under the list of brand names they're currently selling, keith highlander isn't listed. dexter shoes
I guess we're back to waiting and hoping for good news.... I guess this post was pointless, in the end.
post #6589 of 14986
It probably doesn't help much because of, as someone mentioned, the vastly differing levels of quality in even the same company during different periods, but I'll give a comparison of my Florsheim Imperial shell cordovan longwings and Keith Highlander shell cordovan longwings. The Imperials have leather that is about 2 mm thick compared to the leather on the Highlanders have it at around 1 mm thick. The coloring on the Imperials is richer and shinier than on the Highlanders (the Highlanders coloring is very comparable to the AE MacNeils). The brogueing quality is much better on the Imperials in visual distinctness (the holes seem a bit "weak" on the Highlanders but that might be a result also of the leather thickness). The stitching on the Imperials is the same in terms of stitches per inch, but the stitching around the throat where the blucher flaps are connected to the vamp are much more intricate than that of the Highlanders. The tracks that you find on cordovan shoes are much more prevalent in the Highlanders than on the Imperials. There are grooves for the stitches to lie in on the Imperials, none on the Highlanders. The tongue is pinked on the Imperials. I'd say that the Florsheim Imperial quality is higher than that of the current Allen-Edmonds MacNeil (based only on inspection at the SCP store, but I was comparing it in my mind to the Imperials), and that the Highlander would be below that standard. The kicker is that I paid about four times the price for the Highlanders than I did for the Florsheims.

Comparing a pebble-grain longwing from Florsheim (marked as Sears, but I'm 99.9% sure its Florsheim) as well, the leather is about halfway between the others, let's say 1.5 mm thick. The leather is a pebble-grained reddish-orangeish brown and I think corrected grain, but high quality for corrected grain. The stitches per inch are about half that of both the other shoes, except at the flap/vamp stitch area where the same general intricate design and stitch fineness are used. The broguing seems less pronounced on these too, so it must be a function of the thickness. Sole stitching is the same as for the Highlanders. I'd rate these above the MacNeil also, aside from the leather. These I think I paid the same amount for as the shells. Damn you, Florsheim, and your decline into mediocrity! You made such good shoes once. Sigh. I guess the point of all that was to say that in my limited experience, you won't get a great shoe from Keith Highlander, but you will get a decent shoe, which is much better than the current dreck available, especially at the price these Highlanders are being offered.
post #6590 of 14986
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Originally Posted by ineffable View Post
I guess this post was pointless, in the end.
Heh, I had jumped through most of the same hoops you did. But it's still interesting, even if we don't know much more than we did before. I'm getting my money's worth in entertainment value. Ultimately, I'd be very pleased if these are roughly equivalent to the modern Florsheim Imperial Kenmoor. Especially considering the Kenmoor retails for more than $225 and is made in India. JSK, when did you buy your Highlanders? Were they new?
post #6591 of 14986
I bought the Highlanders roughly a year ago on eBay. Aside from the price, another issue was that the heels were badly worn and in need of replacing (which the seller failed to mention and the picture quality failed to show). I just stuck in some plastic heel taps I bought at Albertsons and used them anyway. I should really get them reheeled properly though. All of the shoes are used from eBay. Something I forgot to mention, the heels on the Highlander were all leather with a bunch of nails, the Imperials, half leather and half rubber, and the ones I think are Florsheims had an all-rubber heel.
post #6592 of 14986
FS: Keith Highlander Burgundy longwings 10.5 FUTURES....

Get 'em before we know what they are, current offer price is $75 shipped.
post #6593 of 14986
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Originally Posted by Henry Boogers View Post
FS: Keith Highlander Burgundy longwings 10.5 FUTURES....

Get 'em before we know what they are, current offer price is $75 shipped.

Can I sell short?
post #6594 of 14986
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Originally Posted by tonylumpkin View Post
Can I sell short?

No, you're going to want to go long with these bad boys. I'm not saying I have insider information here, but word on the street is that these are going to be upgraded from 'investment grade' to 'decadent' in the next week.
post #6595 of 14986
Barely worn vintage Florsheim Imperial shell cordovan, 10.5C
post #6596 of 14986
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Originally Posted by tonylumpkin View Post
Can I sell short?

I'm going bearish on them, too, although I confess it's only sour grapes because they didn't have a narrow width in the right size.
post #6597 of 14986
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Originally Posted by TheHoff View Post

I owned this model in 10.5D and still contend that they are not shell. I discussed this with my cobbler and looking at some flaking of the coating on the heel of my pair we became convinced these are not shell. Others disagree.
post #6598 of 14986
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Originally Posted by Henry Boogers View Post
I owned this model in 10.5D and still contend that they are not shell. I discussed this with my cobbler and looking at some flaking of the coating on the heel of my pair we became convinced these are not shell. Others disagree.

The pair in the listing? They are definitely shell. Do you have a pic of the pair you had?
post #6599 of 14986
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Originally Posted by Tarmac View Post
The pair in the listing? They are definitely shell. Do you have a pic of the pair you had?

They're identical to those in the listing. I have pics somewhere but they will look shell to you there as well. The distinction is that on the back of the heel the coating that is painted on this model was beginning to peel off. I have had several pairs of Florsheim shell go through my hands and this shoe is of a different material. Hell, maybe it is shell, but it's coated shell in that case!
post #6600 of 14986
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The 373's are the same uppers and linings but with a long lasting vinyl outsole and cushion rubber heel.

This isn't a good sign, if you got the ones with a vinyl outsole. The worst shoes I see at the thrift store are the vintagey looking ones with a vinyl outsole. If they are leather then you are good. IMHO
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