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Full-brogue balmorals with a very attractive "longwing"-style broguing pattern.
That's not a longwing, it's a balmoral or "golosh" shoe.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/PAUL-SMITH-Brown...QQcmdZViewItem Paul Smith fashion-forwardish wingtip, only $110 and only $20 shipping even though it is UK. 10 min left. mainline paul smith wingtips are pretty rare on ebay 8.5 probably fits huge, this is probably a 9.5 US easily.
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That's not a longwing, it's a balmoral or "golosh" shoe.

yup.

what makes something a longwing is the wing shaped toe piece extending all the way back to the heel.
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These are interesting if pricey (9.5 PS boots), any idea who the maker is? Don't recognize the writing on the shoe

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mens-boots-brown...QQcmdZViewItem
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Originally Posted by RJman View Post
That's not a longwing, it's a balmoral or "golosh" shoe.
Well of course, RJman. You'll note that I didn't describe it as such, but rather as having a "longwing-style broguing pattern" in order to describe the nearly full-length horizontal broguing which is something like what you see on a true longwing--the only ones which I've seen being wingtip bluchers.

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what makes something a longwing is the wing shaped toe piece extending all the way back to the heel.
To be more precise, I'd say that it's the long horizontal extension of the strip of broguing to the heel that makes it a long wing. The "wing" part of it is, of course, only at the toe.
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Originally Posted by Roger View Post
Well of course, RJman. You'll note that I didn't describe it as such, but rather as having a "longwing-style broguing pattern" in order to describe the nearly full-length horizontal broguing which is something like what you see on a true longwing--the only ones which I've seen being wingtip bluchers.
Nice attempt to dodge by using the "-style" excuse. Since you like to be precise (see below), it's neither longwing or longwing-style. It's a balmoral/galosh. It has a standard wing, and thus the wing cannot be "longwing".

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To be more precise, I'd say that it's the long horizontal extension of the strip of broguing to the heel that makes it a long wing. The "wing" part of it is, of course, only at the toe.

This is not more "precise", if anything, it is less precise. It's the extension of the same leather piece that forms the toe that matters, not the broguing.
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Literally black with mahogany antiquing. These could be 10.5s, so if interested, check with seller.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Chaussures-John-...QQcmdZViewItem
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Nice attempt to dodge by using the "-style" excuse. Since you like to be precise (see below), it's neither longwing or longwing-style. It's a balmoral/galosh. It has a standard wing, and thus the wing cannot be "longwing".
NoVaguy, put away your hostility for a moment. It's not an excuse at all. One would not use the term "long-wing style" to describe a true longwing, but rather would just refer to the shoe by that term. As noted above, my use of that term was to emphasize the full-length broguing strip.

Oh, by the way, NoVaguy, are you sure that it's a "galosh"? I thought that those were overshoes! Maybe you meant "golosh." On the other hand, aren't those overshoes too?!!


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Originally Posted by NoVaguy View Post
This is not more "precise", if anything, it is less precise. It's the extension of the same leather piece that forms the toe that matters, not the broguing.
Here's your definition:

"what makes something a longwing is the wing shaped toe piece extending all the way back to the heel."

Now, do you consider it precise to indicate that the "wing shaped toe piece... [extends] all the way back to the heel"? To me, that's imprecise, since the toe broguing pattern (not the toe "piece") remains on the toe and doesn't extend anywhere! It's the broguing strip that extends to the heel.
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That's not a longwing, it's a balmoral or "golosh" shoe.
I'm interested in the origins of the synonym you provide for balmoral (closed facings)--"golosh." I'd guess that the word is synonymous with "galosh." When and by whom has this term been used to indicate the closed-facing design of the oxford or balmoral?
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ADME:B:SS:US:1
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Does anyone know more about these--SM "Stella Rama Sicilia"? Are they mid-level SMs? Higher-level? Attractive last:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nib-SHOES-SUTOR-...QQcmdZViewItem
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He'll take $250 for those.
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Yes, longwings...! You guys may have already seen these, and the price may be on the high side (not that one couldn't make an offer), but they looked quite nice. Restored, storm-welted....

http://cgi.ebay.com/The-SHELL-Cordov...QQcmdZViewItem
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Originally Posted by Roger View Post
I'm interested in the origins of the synonym you provide for balmoral (closed facings)--"golosh." I'd guess that the word is synonymous with "galosh." When and by whom has this term been used to indicate the closed-facing design of the oxford or balmoral?

http://www.johnlobbltd.co.uk/catalog...ford/thumb.htm
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Does anyone know more about these--SM "Stella Rama Sicilia"? Are they mid-level SMs? Higher-level? Attractive last:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nib-SHOES-SUTOR-...QQcmdZViewItem
I bought this pair from Neiman Marcus earlier this summer in a different colour on sale. The original retail was about $650. So maybe mid-level.
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