Beauty and extraordinaryness are truly in the eye of the beholder! I think that the Lobb Vintage shoes have appeal for forumers because they are limited in numbers and of Prestige-line quality--perhaps even a little better, although I have no proof of the latter. In the present case, the appeal would be (a) the color, pepper, which some would really like, (b) the last, the 8000, which is very stylish and comparatively new, and (c) the fact that they're as good as a pair of JLobb RTW shoes can get. Given Prestige-line prices these days, not to mention Vintage prices, to get these, with the shoe trees, for anything close to the opening bid would be a real coup. With these, it's hard to tell whether they have any antiquing, possibly some, but they're not, I don't think, of Lobb's museum calf. I'm not interested myself, but they sure seem anything but ordinary to me!