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post #37066 of 112779
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Originally Posted by Klobber View Post

I agree in the hypothetical ideal case (recent, mint, in which case where it comes from is moot point). However, I see many times someone pick up a dusty old Brioni or Kiton and then slam a large price tag on it.
I dont get it, why would someone pay $400 for a thrifted Kiton jacket that is in so so condition, over 10 years old, and to top it off, with the understanding it was thrifted for 20bucks or so.
An Off fifth close to me has a brand new Kiton jacket for $899 with a further 30% off. Given a choice: Would you guys pay $650 for a new Kiton jacket from retail, or $400 for some beat up old thrifted Kiton that needs a tailors magic to make it look even passably contemporary?
It bugs the shit out of me why some folks value thrifted stuff at half to full "discount" retail.
I contacted a guy here about a thrifted Kiton shirt, and he slammed a $140 price tag on it refusing to budge a dollar. I went to a local Saks Off Fifth and saw a heap of Kiton shirts selling for $179 with a 40% off. So that is $108 before tax. Cheaper to get new from retail than some folks here trying to flog their thrifted wares.
/ End Rant

You've hit, precisely, the advantage to the TNSIL aesthetic. Stuff can be 50, 60 years old and still look good. Not long ago, I sold a vintage BB tweed jacket for $90 and had a ton of interest at that price. Just let a pair of shell Aldens go for less than my asking price to a guy who gave me an Hermes tie a few months back. I could have easily squeezed another $60-$75 from the shoes--I had more than a half-dozen PMs in the first few hours--but I'll make a larger profit in the long run. I see what the latest Tom Ford foolery, new or secondhand, is selling for, and the Kiton, etc., and I'm thinking folks are sartorial Sisyphuses, which perhaps fuels the need to ask outrageous prices and suck every last penny from things. Changing your wardrobe every couple-three years to keep up with the times takes, I imagine, serious coin. Just getting comfortable in the 1950s is expensive enough. Rant over.
post #37067 of 112779
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Originally Posted by Regg View Post

Look, the price of a used shirt should be universal. Either that thrifted Kiton is worth the price or it's not, being thrifted shouldn't factor in.

you're forgetting the effect that demand has on the selling price of a good. just in terms of number of prospective buyers, demand: Ebay > SF B & S > SF thrifting thread. i'm sure you understand what effect this has on the selling price of a good.

given that, i don't understand why flippers who are looking to maximize profits even bother posting stuff here. why not just go straight to B&S or ebay?

EDIT: i meant this in a strictly "economics 101" sense, not in a "you don't belong in my treehouse" sense.
post #37068 of 112779
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Originally Posted by Klobber View Post

lots of good stuff
the bay is just as bad if not worse. i was looking for a utilitarian wine decanter (yeah, i know), and found one I liked on ebay with what seemed like a decent BIN. But just to be sure I went to Amazon to compare and ... sure enough, the guy on ebay was selling a used one for about 15% more than the new one from amazon. crazy. i guess it is just caveat emptor.
post #37069 of 112779
stuff from today

First I have a question for military veterans/people knowledgeable of military clothing. I found 3 vintage selvedge chambray shirts. 2 are mens with the insignias on the arm the other is a womans and has stenciling on the chest and inside the placket. Are these unacceptable to wear? Would it be even more frowned upon to try and sell these? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Everything else is from one store I'm going to go back tomorrow morning to see if any suits or shoes have been set out. I'm not going to be hanging onto any of this so feel free to pm me if you want.

Charvet 16.5 and my first Borrelli 16.5 Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Brioni size III I think (my flash washed it out but this has a blue check pattern) and Brioni 16.5 Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Bullock and Jones 36 and NWT unhemmed Hiltl 36 Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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NWT Zegna pants 36 double pleated Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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NWT unhemmed J L Powell pants. 36. These are pretty awesome really heavy twill and the shade of khaki/carmel is great. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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post #37070 of 112779

To comment on the thrifted items are inherently worth less argument... The orgin (in terms of purchase) of an item matters exactly 0 in its value, just look at ebay, I guarantee you a thrifted Kiton and one purchased at full retail (assuming same shirt and condition) have no real variance in how much they bring. Is gold worth less because it was mined in South Africa vs Alaska? No, because the product is exactly the same. The same logic applies to thrifted goods, assuming we are comparing apples to apples. In the instance mentioned previously, someone obviously just wanted too much for a dated Kiton shirt and/or you happened upon an excellent deal. Both of these instances are relative outliers, and shouldn't be used to justify why items from thrift stores inherently have less value. 

post #37071 of 112779
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Originally Posted by Jpmorris View Post

To comment on the thrifted items are inherently worth less argument... The orgin (in terms of purchase) of an item matters exactly 0 in its value, just look at ebay, I guarantee you a thrifted Kiton and one purchased at full retail (assuming same shirt and condition) have no real variance in how much they bring. Is gold worth less because it was mined in South Africa vs Alaska? No, because the product is exactly the same. The same logic applies to thrifted goods, assuming we are comparing apples to apples. In the instance mentioned previously, someone obviously just wanted too much for a dated Kiton shirt and/or you happened upon an excellent deal. Both of these instances are relative outliers, and shouldn't be used to justify why items from thrift stores inherently have less value. 

the value of thrifted items within this thread is not what you are making it out to be.

an item is worth what someone is able and willing to pay. and people in this thread are likely less able/willing to pay than SF members as a whole, and ebay buyers as a whole.

the population of potential buyers in this thread is skewed. i don't see too many guys (aside from spoo) in this thread wearing $4k Tom Ford, but i do see a lot of broke college students and young(ish) lawyers trying to pay back their law school loans.

like i said, if someone is looking to maximize their profit, trying to sell within this thread is futile.
post #37072 of 112779
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Originally Posted by mexicutioner View Post

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the population of potential buyers in this thread is skewed. i don't see too many guys (aside from spoo) in this thread wearing $4k Tom Ford, but i do see a lot of broke college students and young(ish) lawyers trying to pay back their law school loans.
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Some of us are just addicts -to thrifting I mean-. shog[1].gif
post #37073 of 112779

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Originally Posted by Klobber View Post


I agree in the hypothetical ideal case (recent, mint, in which case where it comes from is moot point). However, I see many times someone pick up a dusty old Brioni or Kiton and then slam a large price tag on it.
I dont get it, why would someone pay $400 for a thrifted Kiton jacket that is in so so condition, over 10 years old, and to top it off, with the understanding it was thrifted for 20bucks or so.
An Off fifth close to me has a brand new Kiton jacket for $899 with a further 30% off. Given a choice: Would you guys pay $650 for a new Kiton jacket from retail, or $400 for some beat up old thrifted Kiton that needs a tailors magic to make it look even passably contemporary?
It bugs the shit out of me why some folks value thrifted stuff at half to full "discount" retail.
I contacted a guy here about a thrifted Kiton shirt, and he slammed a $140 price tag on it refusing to budge a dollar. I went to a local Saks Off Fifth and saw a heap of Kiton shirts selling for $179 with a 40% off. So that is $108 before tax. Cheaper to get new from retail than some folks here trying to flog their thrifted wares.
/ End Rant

I hear ya.  Its a different story when you're talking about so-so condition items and less dollar value items.  I would feel awful even asking for a high price to another thrifter.  I was mainly referring to nice high dollar stuff like Brioni, RLPL, Kiton jackets/suits.  I just think you're crazy for selling that stuff for cheap.  You're talking a quarter to half a grand that you're giving to another guy you know on the internet...

 

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Originally Posted by mexicutioner View Post


i'll bite. i regularly (and exclusively) send very nice stuff to thread regulars for cost + shipping (or even less). why? because they do the same for me.
 

 

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Originally Posted by mexicutioner View Post


you're forgetting the effect that demand has on the selling price of a good. just in terms of number of prospective buyers, demand: Ebay > SF B & S > SF thrifting thread. i'm sure you understand what effect this has on the selling price of a good.
given that, i don't understand why flippers who are looking to maximize profits even bother posting stuff here. why not just go straight to B&S or ebay?
EDIT: i meant this in a strictly "economics 101" sense, not in a "you don't belong in my treehouse" sense.

 

This isn't exclusively a trading or selling thread (although that is one of the functions it serves).  A lot of people including myself post here because they enjoy thrifting, are enthusiastic about their finds, and are seeking information on items.  I like having a place where I can share some of my best finds with people who appreciate it, and its nice having a resource to find more information.  In fact I somewhat miss the days when guys like Nataku and Dig reigned, and the conversation in the thread was more focused on complimenting/critiquing finds, sharing information on vintage stuff, and things like that.  

 

I guess my original thought in my first post was that I hear a lot of talk about the money issues thrifting causes.  I've never had money issues from thrifting, in fact the money I earn lets me live a lot easier without worrying about money, and my wardrobe has expanded enormously.  I would guess that the people whose thrifting is cause money issues have developed a bad habit (maybe addictive) of trading and selling everything for dirt cheap.  I guess I could be wrong.

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Today was a remarkable day in thrifting for Nataku and I, the stores were starting to replenish after the hectic weekend and the racks were flowing. Started the day with a nice Canon A2300 16 megapixel camera that went to my sister, and the find of the day that set me back a couple bucks....15 new William Huang amazing button up shirts. William Huang is an underground designer whose style best resembles Band Of Outsiders/Rag & Bone. Some of the shirts have very cool gussets and they all have either one or two pockets on the front of the shirt. All of the shirts are tagged size Small. Fit like a Small/Medium.Shirts retail $250.

Does anyone know more about William Huang?? teacha.gif

They are all available.

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First Row: #1 x1; #2 x1; #3 x2; #4 x3, #5 x2,

Second Row: #6 x2; #7 x2; #8 x2 #9 x2; #10 x1 #11 x1

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post #37075 of 112779
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Originally Posted by catside View Post

Some of us are just addicts -to thrifting I mean-. shog[1].gif

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post #37076 of 112779
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Originally Posted by mexicutioner View Post

the value of thrifted items within this thread is not what you are making it out to be.
an item is worth what someone is able and willing to pay. and people in this thread are likely less able/willing to pay than SF members as a whole, and ebay buyers as a whole.
the population of potential buyers in this thread is skewed. i don't see too many guys (aside from spoo) in this thread wearing $4k Tom Ford, but i do see a lot of broke college students and young(ish) lawyers trying to pay back their law school loans.
like i said, if someone is looking to maximize their profit, trying to sell within this thread is futile.
I was not referring.to an items value within the vacuum of this thread, I was speaking of the market as a whole. I think we would all agree that this thread is different/special. That is something I have come to enjoy and appreciate. Im sorry if my post wasn't clear.
post #37077 of 112779
^ ahh gotcha. since klobber was talking about people within this thread asking too much $$$ for thrift finds, i thought that's what you were referring to. i hate when people argue past each other, looks like that's exactly what i did. apologies! cheers.gif
post #37078 of 112779
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Originally Posted by mexicutioner View Post

the value of thrifted items within this thread is not what you are making it out to be.

Mexicutioner took a few words to convey my inner sanctum perfectly.

I use the terminology thrift rather loosely, since in one word it wraps up 3 distinct concepts
- item old
- item used
- item cheap

Of course there are occasions where recent or NWT stuff is picked up, but that is the exception not the norm.

Thrifting prices/valuations within the thread are an area which perhaps could be worked on, not the thrifted item or its perceived value outside the thread.

What an item sells on eBay, Craigslist, or down some dark alley amongst working ladies and crack fiends is not my bugbear. People pay for blow whatever the going rate for blow is.

But within this thread, in a forum where all of us know each other in some capacity, in many cases forming friendships, I find it odd that so many are hung up on the going rate and skewing all prices this way. At the end of the day, a $30 jacket from Goodwill is still a $30 jacket. If it has a $400 value on eBay, great, but you still paid $30. If you get $150 for it, friends prices, I think that is pretty damn cool. If you can stretch yourself to sell it for $100, even better, that other person will know you did him a favor and will likely return the favor one day. Such business sense will not work for those that actually supplement a significant portion of the gross income on flipping, in these cases, I understand that flipping goods for cheap will not make the wife happy. But I do not get the impression that most here look at thrifting as a hobby and are in it to get a great wardrobe for cheap. Maybe I am wrong on this count though.

However, for those that are purely business, I am not entirely sure how posting finds here fits within that business plan unless they sell at near eBay with a bit skimmed off the top (i.e. get same gross amount if sell for less but avoid eBay and Paypal fees).
post #37079 of 112779
Anyone interested in this PRL jacket? Picked it up for myself, but it is just a touch too small. Outside is 100% nylon, very thick with a rubbery feel. Inside is 100% cotton, heather grey sweatshirt-like material. My guess is that it is waterproof. Very nice, spring/fall jacket. Bomber/harrington style, 4 front pockets. Is in basically new condition (bit wrinkled from storage). Trim fitting M.

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Now that is a nice-looking jacket!

I offer ten dollars. plain.gif
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