yep, these are shrink to fits and I'm also sagging them slightly in the fit pic. If i were to wear it as intended, higher in the waist, these would fit much slimmer and once hot soaked/washed these will fit much much better.
I picked up one of the "new" 501stf's in the khaki flavor color. Went with 34x34 and they fit great. I had 36x32 at first, and those got way too big ("old" ones), and then went with 35x32 ("old" ones), which fit a lot better and got more distinct fades. The 35's still were still pretty loose, so i decided to size down again. Not looking for fades on this (khaki), but i was surprised to find stf's in this color.