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browniecj · Apr 20, 2011

Originally Posted by Lasttye

I bought my Allan Edmonds via Amazon USA Saved me $70. The ones i got are as near as the Original Royal Gibson, They are called A E Walton, which are leather soled, The A E Ashton and Paraboot are Rubber soled. MoM mentioned the Apron.. front bit, I would say every shoe maker will be a slight difference.
After paying Import VAT cost me Â£295.
For some reason they come only in Black and Chilli brown, Loake do the same in the same colours, no Ox Blood, cant remember if the Royal Gibson came in Ox blood, i also had Black back then.

I believe the Gibsons only came in Black-I only saw Black being worn.

buttons · Apr 21, 2011

I know the split toed gibson had been around in America for years by then, but for the originals, when did you see Gibsons being worn by the young english (what would become) skinheads?
I'm assuming different times in different areas as with many things.

Man-of-Mystery · Apr 21, 2011

Originally Posted by buttons

I know the split toed gibson had been around in America for years by then, but for the originals, when did you see Gibsons being worn by the young english (what would become) skinheads?
I'm assuming different times in different areas as with many things.

I bought my first pair (brown) in late 1967 / early '68 in Blackpool.

browniecj · Apr 21, 2011

Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery

I bought my first pair (brown) in late 1967 / early '68 in Blackpool.
Were they Royals,M-o-M

Lasttye · Apr 21, 2011

For me it was 70, I did not notice them before that,
Got mine from the Squire shop, They was a alternative to Brouges and Plain caps.
Again classic footwear, adopted by Skinheads

Man-of-Mystery · Apr 21, 2011

Originally Posted by browniecj

Were they Royals,M-o-M

No, they weren't. Up North brogues, loafers, Gibsons, etc of the day were selected for look rather than brand, and the look was more rounded than the wing-tip shape of Royals. Damn, this is hard to describe! If only I still had all the kit in a box in the loft!

browniecj · Apr 21, 2011

Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery

No, they weren't. Up North brogues, loafers, Gibsons, etc of the day were selected for look rather than brand, and the look was more rounded than the wing-tip shape of Royals. Damn, this is hard to describe! If only I still had all the kit in a box in the loft!

How many times I have said that,Mate.Also it would show the variations that were around,especially the different parts of London.
Yes,Lasttye,that was when I got my Pair-again in Timpsons.To see how that chain of Shoe Shops have gone from what they were,to a Repair and Key Cutting Shop.How very sad.

Lasttye · Apr 21, 2011

After buying the a Gibson I bought a pair of Tassled fringed loafers, Got them also from the Squire shop.

Brideshead · Apr 21, 2011

Originally Posted by Lasttye

After buying the a Gibson I bought a pair of Tassled fringed loafers, Got them also from the Squire shop.

My footwear journey was like this in the late 60s early 70s

1968 - brown Solatio lace up (like ones Bunty's brother was wearing in the recent pic)
1969 – black Royal brogue
Early 1970 – ‘cordovan’ colour Royal plains
Mid 1970 – a toss up between a Royal Gibson and a Solatio shoe of similar design and the Solatio won (big error!)
Late 1970 – black tasselled loafer from the Bronx Shop Ilford
Early 1971 – brown loafer with a basket weave vamp (Lotus, I think)

I remember both brown and black Gibsons but not burgundy

John Boy · Apr 21, 2011

How do you hear about the doo's? is it all london based?

browniecj · Apr 21, 2011

Originally Posted by John Boy

How do you hear about the doo's? is it all london based?
Have Pmd you,Mate,regarding this.

Kingstonian · Apr 21, 2011

Originally Posted by Lasttye

I bought my Allan Edmonds via Amazon USA Saved me $70. The ones i got are as near as the Original Royal Gibson, They are called A E Walton, which are leather soled, The A E Ashton and Paraboot are Rubber soled. MoM mentioned the Apron.. front bit, I would say every shoe maker will be a slight difference. After paying Import VAT cost me Â£295. For some reason they come only in Black and Chilli brown, Loake do the same in the same colours, no Ox Blood, cant remember if the Royal Gibson came in Ox blood, i also had Black back then. Just to add Allen Edmonds are not available in UK.

The Squire and Ivy shop Gibson were different. The split did not go so far up the vamp. They were more like what is called Norwegian style - except the mudguard around the apron was not stitched. It was a thin bit of piping. Most Royals lace ups sold at the time were black. More like this http://www.theshoemart.com/cgi-bin/c...UCHER_CALFSKIN There was an inexpensive brand of shoes called Tuff in the UK at the time and apron on those was not dissimilar.

Lasttye · Apr 21, 2011

Originally Posted by Kingstonian

The Squire and Ivy shop Gibson were different. The split did not go so far up the vamp. They were more like what is called Norwegian style - except the mudguard around the apron was not stitched. It was a thin bit of piping. Most Royals lace ups sold at the time were black. More like this http://www.theshoemart.com/cgi-bin/c...UCHER_CALFSKIN There was an inexpensive brand of shoes called Tuff in the UK at the time and apron on those was not dissimilar.
Think you are right about the apron as MoM said, but as i said each Shoemaker would have a slight difference, Its difficult to remember, But the ones i bought from Allen Edmonds look ok for me. http://www.allenedmonds.com/webapp/w...ategory=120552

browniecj · Apr 21, 2011

Originally Posted by Kingstonian

The Squire and Ivy shop Gibson were different. The split did not go so far up the vamp. They were more like what is called Norwegian style - except the mudguard around the apron was not stitched. It was a thin bit of piping. Most Royals lace ups sold at the time were black.

More like this
http://www.theshoemart.com/cgi-bin/c...UCHER_CALFSKIN

There was an inexpensive brand of shoes called Tuff in the UK at the time and apron on those was not dissimilar.
There also was a work shoe(called Vanguards)which had a raised edge around Apron-these I wore into Pubs,were Boots were banned.Always got away with it!

Lasttye · Apr 21, 2011

These are not Skinhead shoes, but a fine shoe they are,

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