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post #9841 of 18946
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

Welcome back! biggrin.gif

Very naughty of you Ed - un-paragraphing me in your quote! Flippancy duly noted.....
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Up to speed on the 'Northern' Soul thing now: very sad, I think some coercion has been going on there. Ah, the media's lack of understanding................ 'Let's Twist Again': a classic piece of 'Northern' Soul.. not to mention the use of the term 'Northern'.

P.S. Do they pay you to do this Ed?
post #9843 of 18946
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Originally Posted by Little Queenie View Post

Up to speed on the 'Northern' Soul thing now: very sad, I think some coercion has been going on there. Ah, the media's lack of understanding................ 'Let's Twist Again': a classic piece of 'Northern' Soul.. not to mention the use of the term 'Northern'.
P.S. Do they pay you to do this Ed?
Pay??????

A labour of love. satisfied.gif
post #9844 of 18946
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

I think that's a patterned sweater - not braces.
Roy has previously mentioned fellas 'taking a flyer' and wearing gear most of us wouldn't have worn... with varying degrees of success.
If you were confident and a natural leader, you might get away with it - then others' followed.
Alternatively, if you went too far, and were, like me, merely a follower, the piss-take would have been phenomenal.
Just as well the world has fashion risk-takers, really, otherwise we'd all still be dressing like cavemen/women, if no one ventured anything alternative.

At the time,the piss-take could be relentless.What made it satisfying was seeing someone else taking up the "Look".I was never a Fashion Leader,but,I did take a chance on a Patterned Shirt and suffered the consequences.I can still remember the remarks now!!! smile.gif
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Thanks Ed and Browniecj for the info.Seems odd someone would go outside the accepted style considering the rigid dynamic(of skinheads).I find it interesting also that so many of the original skinheads(in interviews,and Doc footage)expected the "Cult" to have a shortlived shelf life.One young man said they would become ''regular geezers"eventually.Who woulda thought skinheads would still be around(like you originals)and still intregue youngsters comin' up.

post #9846 of 18946
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post


Welcome back Little Queenie.Missed you.
It is a funny thing.When I was a Mod,I did not mind Double Breasted.When it went through to Skinhead,I would not be seen dead in a D/B Jacket or Coat.As the early 70s came,I bought a D/B Jacket and that was it-back in.


Interesting colin, would you link your purchase of a D/B jacket ( something ive always associated with wider lapels ) in the early 70's,

with the general widening of lapels on jackets at that time?

post #9847 of 18946
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Originally Posted by yankmod View Post

Thanks Ed and Browniecj for the info.Seems odd someone would go outside the accepted style considering the rigid dynamic(of skinheads).I find it interesting also that so many of the original skinheads(in interviews,and Doc footage)expected the "Cult" to have a shortlived shelf life.One young man said they would become ''regular geezers"eventually.Who woulda thought skinheads would still be around(like you originals)and still intregue youngsters comin' up.

For me the skinhead trend/fashion of 69 as far I was concerned should never have ceased/died out as I thought it was ideal.  Most of my mates from then in 71ish were quite happy to change with fashion and move on - I did not.  I tried to keep wearing the same clobber but you then become the odd one out and my clothes had to change (mildly).

 

You see most of us did not see that period as a cult it was just a time in fashion and we knew it would change.  For me and the like minded originals on here it was more than that, it was the epitome of how we wanted to dress and behave and generally live.  It must be strange for the younger members who were not there and to view retrospectively of how it should be or how we would like it to be  - but it wasn't. 

 

As I say only a few originals really think those days were special. Others who were there thought they were good times and can leave it back there and move on - I can't.  I would turn back the clock any day

 

Now days I do not dress as a skinhead but still wear straight jeans (with a bit of Lycra) Fred Perry type shirts etc.  I will not pay the prices now for the shirts and made to measure clothes from back in the day and a lot of what I wear now comes from M&S.  Although I still like and buy Loake Royals.  Of course one of the issues of being near 60 is that at 6' tall 17 stone and 48"/50" chest (not mentioning waist ) it becomes difficult to obtain the old clothes.  I also do not want to look stupid - would the clothes I wore and thought great and smart as a teenage now make me look ridiculous and sad?

 

Its funny you get to the originals ages and look back at your life at over 40 years ago and you think it was just faded memories and then you find this thread and people who were there and really felt and still feel passionate about that time and you suddenly have comrades of a past that certainly mattered to some people, even though to others it had just passed on.

 

When I met Buttons this year he had so much knowledge and possessions of the day but the only thing he could not obtain was the sense of really being back there ie smells, the buzz, the excitement, the memories etc.  I suppose its like us now reading about the WW1 and WW11 but not really understanding because we were not there to experience it.  But you younger members please keep pushing with questions because it certainly keeps me thinking, reminiscing and keeping the old days alive

 

I find it fascinating on here that a topic (say sheepskin coats) kicks off and loads of opinions / memories flood in from all over the place.  I could kick myself for not have a photo of my prized 3/4 sheepskin.  But back then you would not have a camera to hand as box brownies were too big the modern camera of the day was too expensive.  If you was in the tourist part of London and a man said he would take your picture you would never see the photo or you 5 bob again!!  Youngsters today are so fortunate with camera phones and digital cameras etc - they will have plenty of photographic memories / records

 

Enough rambling

post #9848 of 18946
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Originally Posted by buttons View Post

Fully understand the single breasted argument with everything else, but when I first saw the pic of MoM's sheep, I thought it was double breasted due to the very generous overlap. The only difference would be three more buttons on the front.
So am I right in assuming there was a general dislike to double breasted garments on principal?
(single row of) Buttons

Must admit Will i thought it was a double breasted one, hence my question. But it does like only one set of buttons. Were the buttons moved MoM as it does look like it overlaps somewhat.
post #9849 of 18946
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Originally Posted by Basset View Post

For some strange reason im holding two pints in this pic, tut tut.
Scorcher do in Brum a few yrs back, it was very cold and most were wearing sheepskins, i did hear one of the barstaff say that it looked like a John Motson convention,

Nice Sheepskin Basset,
post #9850 of 18946
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Originally Posted by Aces and Eights View Post

For me the skinhead trend/fashion of 69 as far I was concerned should never have ceased/died out as I thought it was ideal.  Most of my mates from then in 71ish were quite happy to change with fashion and move on - I did not.  I tried to keep wearing the same clobber but you then become the odd one out and my clothes had to change (mildly).

You see most of us did not see that period as a cult it was just a time in fashion and we knew it would change.  For me and the like minded originals on here it was more than that, it was the epitome of how we wanted to dress and behave and generally live.  It must be strange for the younger members who were not there and to view retrospectively of how it should be or how we would like it to be  - but it wasn't. 

As I say only a few originals really think those days were special. Others who were there thought they were good times and can leave it back there and move on - I can't.  I would turn back the clock any day

Now days I do not dress as a skinhead but still wear straight jeans (with a bit of Lycra) Fred Perry type shirts etc.  I will not pay the prices now for the shirts and made to measure clothes from back in the day and a lot of what I wear now comes from M&S.  Although I still like and buy Loake Royals.  Of course one of the issues of being near 60 is that at 6' tall 17 stone and 48"/50" chest (not mentioning waist ) it becomes difficult to obtain the old clothes.  I also do not want to look stupid - would the clothes I wore and thought great and smart as a teenage now make me look ridiculous and sad?

Its funny you get to the originals ages and look back at your life at over 40 years ago and you think it was just faded memories and then you find this thread and people who were there and really felt and still feel passionate about that time and you suddenly have comrades of a past that certainly mattered to some people, even though to others it had just passed on.

When I met Buttons this year he had so much knowledge and possessions of the day but the only thing he could not obtain was the sense of really being back there ie smells, the buzz, the excitement, the memories etc.  I suppose its like us now reading about the WW1 and WW11 but not really understanding because we were not there to experience it.  But you younger members please keep pushing with questions because it certainly keeps me thinking, reminiscing and keeping the old days alive

I find it fascinating on here that a topic (say sheepskin coats) kicks off and loads of opinions / memories flood in from all over the place.  I could kick myself for not have a photo of my prized 3/4 sheepskin.  But back then you would not have a camera to hand as box brownies were too big the modern camera of the day was too expensive.  If you was in the tourist part of London and a man said he would take your picture you would never see the photo or you 5 bob again!!  Youngsters today are so fortunate with camera phones and digital cameras etc - they will have plenty of photographic memories / records

Enough rambling


Great read ace of Eights...spot on mate.
post #9851 of 18946
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Originally Posted by Lasttye View Post

Great read ace of Eights...spot on mate.
I agree - 100%.

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post #9852 of 18946
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Originally Posted by Basset View Post


Interesting colin, would you link your purchase of a D/B jacket ( something ive always associated with wider lapels ) in the early 70's,
with the general widening of lapels on jackets at that time?

Yes,the Jackets were coming in.I remember my first "Off The Peg" Suit had the wide(nearly covering your Shoulders)Jacket and not too Flared Trousers.This led to a D/B Jacket(Black)that I wore with Light Grey Trousers.I did not buy a Suit again for many years.It was about `72/`73 I started wearing a silver Saxophone in the Lapel of my Jacket.Always liked that Musical Instrument(wished I had learnt to play one).This went onto the "Horn Of Plenty"on a Chain-later in the 70s.If you look at things,they did follow on,in a funny sort of way.When I said about unbuttoning the Collars of BS,this did open the door to look for something different.

Ace and Eights,well said.Agree with you.smile.gif
post #9853 of 18946
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

I agree - 100%.
Sigh...dozingoff.gif

Aye :)

 

I think the much coveted "Post Of The Week" Badge goes to Aces & Eights.

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Thanks Aces and Eights.Thats what I'm looking for.When I said I was the instigator,this is what I meant.I'm trying to ask questions which will contribute to M.O.M.'s book (even if they seem stupid)The one thing I'm looking for is more stories which involve family members(how they responded to having a skinhead in the family or even more mundane day to day events)Alan Mortlock posted a christmas photo of himself with the Tighten Up comp.LP sittin around with the family.I feel that folks who don't know the truth about skinheads(they only know the negatives from after that period)Will realize these were kids with families and human just like everyone else instead of a cartoon character.TA

post #9855 of 18946
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Originally Posted by Aces and Eights View Post

For me the skinhead trend/fashion of 69 as far I was concerned should never have ceased/died out as I thought it was ideal.  Most of my mates from then in 71ish were quite happy to change with fashion and move on - I did not.  I tried to keep wearing the same clobber but you then become the odd one out and my clothes had to change (mildly).

 

You see most of us did not see that period as a cult it was just a time in fashion and we knew it would change.  For me and the like minded originals on here it was more than that, it was the epitome of how we wanted to dress and behave and generally live.  It must be strange for the younger members who were not there and to view retrospectively of how it should be or how we would like it to be  - but it wasn't. 

 

As I say only a few originals really think those days were special. Others who were there thought they were good times and can leave it back there and move on - I can't.  I would turn back the clock any day

 

Now days I do not dress as a skinhead but still wear straight jeans (with a bit of Lycra) Fred Perry type shirts etc.  I will not pay the prices now for the shirts and made to measure clothes from back in the day and a lot of what I wear now comes from M&S.  Although I still like and buy Loake Royals.  Of course one of the issues of being near 60 is that at 6' tall 17 stone and 48"/50" chest (not mentioning waist ) it becomes difficult to obtain the old clothes.  I also do not want to look stupid - would the clothes I wore and thought great and smart as a teenage now make me look ridiculous and sad?

 

Its funny you get to the originals ages and look back at your life at over 40 years ago and you think it was just faded memories and then you find this thread and people who were there and really felt and still feel passionate about that time and you suddenly have comrades of a past that certainly mattered to some people, even though to others it had just passed on.

 

When I met Buttons this year he had so much knowledge and possessions of the day but the only thing he could not obtain was the sense of really being back there ie smells, the buzz, the excitement, the memories etc.  I suppose its like us now reading about the WW1 and WW11 but not really understanding because we were not there to experience it.  But you younger members please keep pushing with questions because it certainly keeps me thinking, reminiscing and keeping the old days alive

 

I find it fascinating on here that a topic (say sheepskin coats) kicks off and loads of opinions / memories flood in from all over the place.  I could kick myself for not have a photo of my prized 3/4 sheepskin.  But back then you would not have a camera to hand as box brownies were too big the modern camera of the day was too expensive.  If you was in the tourist part of London and a man said he would take your picture you would never see the photo or you 5 bob again!!  Youngsters today are so fortunate with camera phones and digital cameras etc - they will have plenty of photographic memories / records

 

Enough rambling


Good read, and theres nowt wrong with M&S

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