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This seems like a good place to ask.

I am going to be in NYC for more than half of December. (8th-24th). Ive spent most of this year digging into Northern Soul sounds, but in San Francisco there isn't really much in the way of a "soul night" anywhere except the once a month Tuesday night at Edinburgh Castle...

Anyone know of any (Northern) Soul nights currently happening in NY? I was scanning this thread and saw some mentions of Subway Soul (http://www.subwaysoul.com/drupal/drupal-5.7/index.php) which appeared to be just what I am looking for but is now sadly defunct.

Any tips/links would be appreciated! Thanks!

Try Nevarda Smiths on 74 3rd Ave, Great British Bar shows all the Premier Football, Also Websters Hall on 11th St between 3 & 4 Ave. Maybe not your scene...but i like em .smile.gif
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Try Nevarda Smiths on 74 3rd Ave, Great British Bar shows all the Premier Football, Also Websters Hall on 11th St between 3 & 4 Ave. Maybe not your scene...but i like em .smile.gif

NYC is not as Hip as people think.Webster Hall has shitty sound but it's place in American Music History is deep.Bill Haleys "Rock around the clock" recorded there as well as early Elvis on RCA.Sinatra and others as well.Mostly British bands play there and the Bowery Ballroom as well.

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Jeff Dexter has quite a History himself.He was Dj in quite a few influentual Mod Clubs"Up West",during the 60s.Later he went into the Hippy Style of Music-which is where I left off.I used to go to the Purley Orchid-where he Djed there.smile.gif

Interesting interview with Jeff Dexter here http://www.djhistory.com/interviews/jeff-dexter confirms what you say about the crappy hippy stuff. Of more interest to the Old Bill would be the last couple of questions re: Jimmy Savile - especially seeing as the interview was from 1999!
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A quote from Don Hughes of the  Original Modernists 1959-1966 FB page.
Don Hughes The first 'Skinheads ' I saw would of been late 66. A couple of younger hard mods [your ref] I knew had crops. A few 13/14 year olds followed. They wore brown suede zippers, Levis and suede 'ski boots'. This look wasnt for me as I was moving towards rock and heavy blues stuff. Then I discovered Love..Count 5, Q and Mysterions etc so I swiftly moved away from the mod scene. Within months I'd sold my SS and swopped my parka for a kaftan [May 67
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A quote from Don Hughes of the  Original Modernists 1959-1966 FB page.


Don HughesThe first 'Skinheads ' I saw would of been late 66. A couple of younger hard mods [your ref] I knew had crops. A few 13/14 year olds followed. They wore brown suede zippers, Levis and suede 'ski boots'. This look wasnt for me as I was moving towards rock and heavy blues stuff. Then I discovered Love..Count 5, Q and Mysterions etc so I swiftly moved away from the mod scene. Within months I'd sold my SS and swopped my parka for a kaftan [May 67




They were not called Skinheads in `66.I believe this Gentleman is referring to the shorter cropped Hair(possibly a No.4)where it was shorter on top-but longer at sides.Suede Jackets were worn,later Leather Bomber Jackets came in.I had pair of Suede Shoes that were like Desert Boots but cut shorter around the Ankles.This would be 65/66.Braces were worn earlier than `68-with rolled up Jeans.You had Individualists before `68,after it became regimented.Good times.smile.gif
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If I can remember properly,the first Suede Jackets were classed as "Sportswear" and French.
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They were not called Skinheads in `66.I believe this Gentleman is referring to the shorter cropped Hair(possibly a No.4)where it was shorter on top-but longer at sides.Suede Jackets were worn,later Leather Bomber Jackets came in.I had pair of Suede Shoes that were like Desert Boots but cut shorter around the Ankles.This would be 65/66.Braces were worn earlier than `68-with rolled up Jeans.You had Individualists before `68,after it became regimented.Good times.smile.gif

Thanks browniecj.

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Ben Nevis in Camden Town.
http://www.bennevisclothing.com/epages/BT3129.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/BT3129/Products/%22Harrington%20Jacket%2C%20Green%22/SubProducts/%22Harrington%20Jacket%2C%20Bottle%20Green-S%22
You even get 20% off outside EEC and they are cheap to start off with.

Thanks, this is a good price. Anybody here have their donkey jacket? Since it's coming overseas I may grab one of those as well to save on shipping. Are they a looser fit or fairly slim looking on an average build?
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I asked Jeff Dexter to describe what he classifies as early skins 61-62  and where it came from.                                                                                                                  1. Certainly not from Jamaicans. 2. Not true Ivy League, more of a mix with what the US refer to as Blue Collar with a good influence from the American soldiers particularly sharp marines, along with Californian hipsters and New York Colors (that's not skin colour). Crop or crew cut, bright coloured button down collar shirt, still some sporting a Fred Perry, maybe a check or two, some in wool too. Levi jeans, although some wore Lee, as they were harder wearing, with belts, and or braces. Topped of by some form of action jacket, golf style or military. Oh and quite often a sweater tied around the waist and fully worn when it got cold, those that earned well would have a Cromby coat, in camel or black too.

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    Jeff Dexter I forget their Dr Marten's, highly polished.
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I asked Jeff Dexter to describe what he classifies as early skins 61-62  and where it came from.                                                                                                                  1. Certainly not from Jamaicans. 2. Not true Ivy League, more of a mix with what the US refer to as Blue Collar with a good influence from the American soldiers particularly sharp marines, along with Californian hipsters and New York Colors (that's not skin colour). Crop or crew cut, bright coloured button down collar shirt, still some sporting a Fred Perry, maybe a check or two, some in wool too. Levi jeans, although some wore Lee, as they were harder wearing, with belts, and or braces. Topped of by some form of action jacket, golf style or military. Oh and quite often a sweater tied around the waist and fully worn when it got cold, those that earned well would have a Cromby coat, in camel or black too.
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    Jeff DexterI forget their Dr Marten's, highly polished.





There was very short cut hair(normally by Hand),I think it was the French Cut.If I remember properly,the Grade Cuts(2,3,4)came available mid 60s(but I could be wrong).A mixture of Clothing,mainly Ivy League,bought from Shops such as Cecil Gee and Austin Reed etc etc.They were expensive Items but you had the "Look".This was a bit before my Time so I am only going by what I heard.American Servicemen used to go to The Pink Flamingo(where Jeff Dexter would have gone to).Here was when the first Allnighters started,around `58,requested by the American Serviceman.Mods came later( I suppose they would get some influence from the American Officer).The American Servicemen would take Records down to th "Flamingo"-to either get them played or to sell them.There was a large Americam Airforce Base in West London(Import Shop nearby).I have bought some Records from there,but again,later.The Jamaican Influence came later.When I was going to Jamaican Clubs(about `68).the Servicemen had stopped going-or shall I say there was not too many of them-in the West End.My Influence certainly came from the "Rude Boy",because they were all I saw.The Crop and Razor Parting was Jamaican via America.Look at the early Stevie Wonder Albums and you will see what I mean.

Dr.Martins were popular with the People who worked in Factories(especially Heavy Industry)because they were anti Oil and Acid Corrosion.The Soles made them lighter-the other Boots on Sale, at that time, were based on heavy Army Boots.This helped the Posties and Old Bill.....smile.gif
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The Sweaters would be tied around the Shoulders-via the French Look(or Ivy League).Some People went to great lengths to get the "Look" right.Even smoking French Cigarettes(bloody horrible things).smile.gif
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I should say,the Crop came from America via Jamaica.
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Thanks browniecj.

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They were not called Skinheads in `66.I believe this Gentleman is referring to the shorter cropped Hair(possibly a No.4)where it was shorter on top-but longer at sides.Suede Jackets were worn,later Leather Bomber Jackets came in.I had pair of Suede Shoes that were like Desert Boots but cut shorter around the Ankles.This would be 65/66.Braces were worn earlier than `68-with rolled up Jeans.You had Individualists before `68,after it became regimented.Good times.smile.gif

Not a great look but here I am, early '69, suede shoe/mini boot and braces... and the hair was due a cut.



Couldn't afford a suede jacket but had a 'surfer' jacket-type thing, if i recall.

Come on, I was still at school... shog[1].gif
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FYI: Jamaica, reggae and Clarks shoes - BBC2 last night.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mk25
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