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post #9691 of 13029
12/1/12 at 2:55am
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post


This might be a bit of a mouthful but something like Mod to Suedehead - Class of 69 might just do it, if we really must change.

Hard Mod or Suedehead,

Funny back in the 60s the word skinhead rarely came up with us, maybe at football you would hear the crowd chat Skinhead ..Skinhead..if you had a bald Ref,
Or if a lad came in the pub ..having been to the barbers, ..he would get Skinhead..Skinhead.

Lets face it whenever the word Skinhead comes up....people get the wrong or right idea. Even with the Originals it was one big negative, thats why the fashion only lasted less that a couple of years.
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post #9692 of 13029
12/1/12 at 3:18am
All - with details/date etc - from here: http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/suedehead









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post #9693 of 13029
12/1/12 at 3:19am
I'd seen the pic before but not the article... and those prices!!!!

http://skinhead69.hubpages.com/hub/Skinhead-Fashion-in-the-UK-1971

And i hadn't seen this footage before:

http://www.eafa.org.uk/catalogue/152452#.TtX15XVB7f4.facebook

Some great stuff from the 'Tumblr' thread owner. nod[1].gif
Edited by Ed Vaughan - 12/1/12 at 6:46am
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post #9694 of 13029
12/1/12 at 4:40am

700

 

'Glam-skin' smile.gif  

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post #9695 of 13029
12/1/12 at 5:48am
Hi, just found this cracking forum. I was a skin 80-83. But came in via two-tone, Trojan then oi. Must admit older i get the more the fascination for guys from 69, the look, the music that outweighs my years. To be honest felt like a totally different animal. Although I'm not a skin anymore there are certain elements if clothing DMS,Ben Sherman shirts and Fred perry shirts I still wear. I also purchased a couple of cotton collarless grandad shirts. Now I've read several times they were also worn back in the day. Was this the case?
Edited by andyf - 12/1/12 at 10:59am
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post #9696 of 13029
12/1/12 at 7:06am
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post


The working title of the book is 'Walk Proud'/'Walking Proud'.
My take on the Gstrangle issue is this:
This is a thread in a forum about fashion. If people at the G-corporation do not have the intelligence to notice this, but instead want to equate it with racist 'bonehead' sites, then they are fools.
To rename the thread would simply hide as effectively as a G ban. This thread is about original skinhead fashion.
This thread is not about racism and doesn't support racism. It is truthful about the level of racism in British society around 1969 and the level of racism in skinheads at the time. Most of our dads fought in WW2 anyway, and if we had gone around going 'Sieg Heil' they would have leathered us.
This thread is not about right-wing politics. We keep politics off this thread, except for being truthful - same as above - about the politics of Britain in the late 60s, where it is relevant. The people on here all have their own political views, and it's a wide and diverse spread; we're largely silent about them, because that's not what the thread's all about. If we want to express our current views openly we do it elsewhere.
This thread is, in effect, fashion and social history. It is turning out to be a valuable resource.
IMHO anyway.
As a postscript, I'm sorry that the book is taking longer than I had hoped. The job isn't as easy as I thought it would be and it's getting increasingly difficult to find spare time. Nevertheless, I'm determined that it WILL get done.
M-o-M

I agree with M-o-M comments and add that it is important to keep this thread going.  The comments and memories on here are priceless.  To be able to converse with like minded originals from around the country has been a breath of fresh air to me.  i also enjoy the contributions from the younger members together with our friends from abroad.  This tread does not contain the crap I have seen on other skinhead threads before I found this one - it really is enjoyable to read and I have found out so much more about the era I lived through and was/am passionate about.

 

When all said and done 'whats in a name'.  Having said that I only found this tread by using the word 'skinhead' in part of my search enquiry.  It is important that the thread is available for potential new members will be able to find so if a new name is to be used it must be relevant.  'Mod to suedehead' could appeal to a wide search?.  I do not think we should be a private thread as new blood is important to any club/group etc

 

I know I am only a relatively new member even being an Original Skinhead but I would hate to lose this thread after finally finding a true Traditional skinhead forum and having the pleasure of meeting some of the contributors at a function this year.  I do not use Facebook as I do not see the point of writing about what you have just had for your dinner - the comments / information penned on here are of use and value.

 

I will back the majority so long as the threads not lost

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post #9697 of 13029
12/1/12 at 8:59am

Stolen off FB

 

1000

 

 

I'm digging the knitted polo 2nd from right.

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post #9698 of 13029
12/1/12 at 9:06am
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Originally Posted by Kingstonian View Post

Suggestion from the forum admin was
1 Move it to a section called 'Dumb Threads'.
or
2 Change the name
With 1 you will get no new traffic only people already on SF will have access
Changing the name also risks losing some new traffic if the name is too obscure.
All round a difficult situation. You could have 'hardcore porn' or 'gambling' in the title and Google would not be bothered. NB I am not suggesting we change it to include those, as we would definitely confuse people.

Just to clear a few things up, that last statement is actually not true. We actually had Imageshack refuse to serve Styleforum for a couple of weeks because of the many threads with "porn" in the title. We also got a warning from google about the "Watch Porn" thread, now renamed "Watch Appreciation", because it would have been evident that people are talking about timepieces, and the thread was not an exhortation to view porn.

The way these things work is that the g**gle spiders trawl the web, and if there are too many flags, it goes to a human, who is then supposed to adjudicate. They answer to no higher power. Changing the name would at least get the adjudicator to wonder, and then open the thread to check. Otherwise, if it seems offensive, they could easily just put the entire site on a list that could make our lives very difficult.

I don't like it either, but I don't rule the world, i just live here.
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post

Hang on. What? What are they actually doing? Refusing to list the thread because of - what? - negative connotations of the word 'skinhead'? Somebody please enlighten me what Gstringle is actually doing.

That pretty much sums it up.
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post

By the way, I have just put the words 'G*****', 'ban', and 'skinhead' into B*ng and come up with nothing. If this is being done, it appears to be being done in secret.

There are tons of things done in secret. I am one of the 2 owners and administrators of the site, and if you knew all the shit we deal with behind the scenes, you'd understand why it is that managing a community this size is a full time job (we have 1.4MM+ unique visitors a month, and 10.5MM+ pageviews.)

I will respect the wishes of the original poster, and change the name to "Spirit" of '69" for the time being. If he consents, and as a group, you decide, on something else, ask the original poster to PM me, and I'll change it to something else.

You all seem a good bunch, and amongst the more civil of our posters, and I do apologize that we have to take this step. I hope you will understand that we are under the gun, so to speak. Websites live and die at the behest of several large corporations. If we are ever a megacorporation, maybe we'll change the rules of the game. That's not going to happen without us having at least several billion dollars in play. If anyone has it to give, I'd be a happy recipient.
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post #9699 of 13029
12/1/12 at 9:26am
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

Just to clear a few things up, that last statement is actually not true. We actually had Imageshack refuse to serve Styleforum for a couple of weeks because of the many threads with "porn" in the title. We also got a warning from google about the "Watch Porn" thread, now renamed "Watch Appreciation", because it would have been evident that people are talking about timepieces, and the thread was not an exhortation to view porn.
The way these things work is that the g**gle spiders trawl the web, and if there are too many flags, it goes to a human, who is then supposed to adjudicate. They answer to no higher power. Changing the name would at least get the adjudicator to wonder, and then open the thread to check. Otherwise, if it seems offensive, they could easily just put the entire site on a list that could make our lives very difficult.
I don't like it either, but I don't rule the world, i just live here.
That pretty much sums it up.
There are tons of things done in secret. I am one of the 2 owners and administrators of the site, and if you knew all the shit we deal with behind the scenes, you'd understand why it is that managing a community this size is a full time job (we have 1.4MM+ unique visitors a month, and 10.5MM+ pageviews.)
I will respect the wishes of the original poster, and change the name to "Spirit" of '69" for the time being. If he consents, and as a group, you decide, on something else, ask the original poster to PM me, and I'll change it to something else.
You all seem a good bunch, and amongst the more civil of our posters, and I do apologize that we have to take this step. I hope you will understand that we are under the gun, so to speak. Websites live and die at the behest of several large corporations. If we are ever a megacorporation, maybe we'll change the rules of the game. That's not going to happen without us having at least several billion dollars in play. If anyone has it to give, I'd be a happy recipient.

LA Guy,the Cheque is in the Post. Shame about the faceless ones(Big Brother etc.,etc.).When we were Teenagers(back in the 60s)we had the Police on our case-so nothing has changed.I do not know about the original Poster,as he got p*ss*d off here.He started ok but then,as more and more Originals came on(15/16 to 19year olds in `68/69)he started losing ground.We could relate to things that he had only heard about-because during that timescale he was very, very young.So he was not an Original.smile.gif
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post #9700 of 13029
12/1/12 at 9:45am
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

I'd seen the pic before but not the article... and those prices!!!!
http://skinhead69.hubpages.com/hub/Skinhead-Fashion-in-the-UK-1971
And i hadn't seen this footage before:
http://www.eafa.org.uk/catalogue/152452#.TtX15XVB7f4.facebook
Some great stuff from the 'Tumblr' thread owner. nod[1].gif

The Coastal Areas were always busy.We were the main Attraction....smile.gif.People and Media complained about us,but always watched our movements-something to tell the neighbours,you see!!
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post #9701 of 13029
12/1/12 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

The Coastal Areas were always busy.We were the main Attraction....smile.gif.People and Media complained about us,but always watched our movements-something to tell the neighbours,you see!!
Indeed.

I thought it was almost comical that the locals - chamber of commerce, town hall people, shopkeepers etc - all feared that 'our' arrival would have a detrimental effect on trade... when it appears, when listening to the Alan Whicker wannabee, the very opposite was true. happy.gif

FTR: This section of Styleforum has been a breath of fresh air to me - and, I'm sure others too, judging by recent comments - and i would hate it to vanish because of some fairly ignorant, PC-esque perceptions about what original skinheads were about.

Without wishing to appear to be brown-nosing too much satisfied.gif, can I thank all of those who originated it and who continue to enlighten me with their postings - 'respect'. (Though that is a much over-used and often wrongly attributed word, nowadays.)
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post #9702 of 13029
12/1/12 at 10:33am

I like the tag "Spirit of 69" but if your not clued in,you won't understand the reference.Some cool content from Ed and soundsandpressure.Thanks guys.M.O.M. the book is a huge undertaking(even if you had all your time to dedicate to it,) It will be done when it's done.It's worth the wait.And everyone here will be eternally grateful to you.Take your time and do it right(my gramps always said)Anyway new content and photos arrive weekly.We are all with you.Like I said before my only contribution is I have all the photos safe on my machine as well.Nothing is dead here,we are gonna keep going.

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post #9703 of 13029
12/1/12 at 10:38am
Always good to hear from the Northern Perspective,Ed.I did not go further than Watford in the 60s,everything I wanted was on my doorstep.I am always interested in hearing about Clubs etc., in the North.Good on yer Mate!!!!smile.gif
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post #9704 of 13029
12/1/12 at 2:50pm
Spirt of 69, will mean jack sh*t to browsers, should use Hard Mods/Suedehead. This thread to survive needs new members for input, Everyone knows about Mods, and Suedehead will attract people in the know.
I am a original Skinhead from 68....a couple of years ago I would not have known what Spirt of 69 meant, it is a later 79/80s Skinhead term.from the book of the same name


I remember the Oz magazine in the 70s, in one issue it had a Ex Skinhead now dressed as a Hippy with a little badge with Spirt of 69 on, I always thought it referred to the Skinheads at the Rolling Stones concert in Hyde Park 1969 London.
Edited by Lasttye - 12/1/12 at 3:04pm
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post #9705 of 13029
12/1/12 at 3:32pm
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Originally Posted by Lasttye View Post

Spirt of 69, will mean jack sh*t to browsers, should use Hard Mods/Suedehead. This thread to survive needs new members for input, Everyone knows about Mods, and Suedehead will attract people in the know.
I am a original Skinhead from 68....a couple of years ago I would not have known what Spirt of 69 meant, it is a later 79/80s Skinhead term.from the book of the same name
I remember the Oz magazine in the 70s, in one issue it had a Ex Skinhead now dressed as a Hippy with a little badge with Spirt of 69 on, I always thought it referred to the Skinheads at the Rolling Stones concert in Hyde Park 1969 London.

Lasttye is 100% correct.I'm ready to cast my vote.Some variation with Mod Suedehead is the best bet.

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