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post #9421 of 12600
11/18/12 at 4:05pm
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Originally Posted by Pequod View Post

More skinheads in jean jackets...

Please note also the story behind the picture:

 

http://comeheretome.com/2012/06/07/dublin-skinheads-in-1970-sunday-indo-article/

 

 

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Big Up to Pequad ! What a find where do I start.A photo with thier names and where their from.A portrait of decent upstanding citizens and you'll notice they are 19 and 21 yrs.Dispels the myth of Skins always bein very young,Thanks for that,everyone rally round.

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post #9422 of 12600
11/18/12 at 4:15pm
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Originally Posted by Pequod View Post

More skinheads in jean jackets...
Please note also the story behind the picture:

http://comeheretome.com/2012/06/07/dublin-skinheads-in-1970-sunday-indo-article/





Brill Photo and story, where i came from, The Kilburn Aggro Mob in the 60s was made up of 60% London born Irish, We also had three lads from Dublin in our mob, very smart Skinheads and not a Jean Jacket between them biggrin.gif
I was 15 in 1969... 80% of Skinheads was 14 to 17 in 69, I was part of the Famous Kilburn Aggro Mob, and a Chelsea Shed Boy, I worked in the Building trade and meet many Skinheads from all over London, and would be invited into their areas.
Never saw one of them ever wearing a Jean Jacket, everyone knew Jean Jackets was Northern Kit,

Again I have to say i'am sure Jean Jackets was worn by individuals in London, But if you was part of a local gang.. and part of a football mob you wore what everyone was wearing and in London it was not a Jean Jacket.

I was a original Skinhead, I can only go by what i saw and lived through, But i do understand other people have different opinions of that period..which makes it all that more interesting,smile.gif
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post #9423 of 12600
11/18/12 at 5:12pm
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Originally Posted by Lasttye View Post


Brill Photo and story, where i came from, The Kilburn Aggro Mob in the 60s was made up of 60% London born Irish, We also had three lads from Dublin in our mob, very smart Skinheads and not a Jean Jacket between them biggrin.gif
I was 15 in 1969... 80% of Skinheads was 14 to 17 in 69, I was part of the Famous Kilburn Aggro Mob, and a Chelsea Shed Boy, I worked in the Building trade and meet many Skinheads from all over London, and would be invited into their areas.
Never saw one of them ever wearing a Jean Jacket, everyone knew Jean Jackets was Northern Kit,
Again I have to say i'am sure Jean Jackets was worn by individuals in London, But if you was part of a local gang.. and part of a football mob you wore what everyone was wearing and in London it was not a Jean Jacket.
I was a original Skinhead, I can only go by what i saw and lived through, But i do understand other people have different opinions of that period..which makes it all that more interesting,smile.gif

Ah the Kilburn mob.So in London Jean Jackets was Scruffy.Yooz guys was tighter.Your from the Big city.Makes sense to me.

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post #9424 of 12600
11/18/12 at 10:28pm
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Originally Posted by yankmod View Post

Big Up to Pequad ! What a find where do I start.A photo with thier names and where their from.A portrait of decent upstanding citizens and you'll notice they are 19 and 21 yrs.Dispels the myth of Skins always bein very young,Thanks for that,everyone rally round.

I was 19 in `69.There were a helluva lot of older Skins about.We never mixed with 15/16 year olds( you had to be 18 to get into the Dancehalls of the time).I was working and going out to Clubs in and around London(except North London-never had the inclination of going there).Used to meet up with some older Skins from Willesden,"up west".My outlook on the late 60s stems from this experience.I stopped getting involved in Football Voilence because the age of the Aggro Boys dropped-so it was not worth getting in a row with a 15/16 year old.I have said before that West Ham would have rucks with each other.I have seen the older ones turn on the youngsters-because they felt they were out of order.I do not know if this was true of other Clubs.
I have never said Jean Jackets had mass appeal,but they were worn by more than one or two individuals(Photos have shown that).I never went to the North,in the 60s-so how would I pick up a "Northern Thing".To say such and such thing was never worn,is like putting on Blinkers.I could say Braces were not worn outside Jumpers(I never saw any)but in North London they did.There are Photos to prove this.In London there were many "Takes" of the Skinhead Theme".Lasttye has said he never knew Two Tone(or he never had any)but in other parts it was popular.I had Suits and Trousers made of that Style.If you mainly stay around your Manor(or maybe a couple of miles each side) you never see the differences.But I was older and in the Retail Trade-so things could be talked about and weighed up quicker smile.gif
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post #9425 of 12600
11/18/12 at 11:00pm
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

This Picture shows a Levi Jacket and a Leather one-I believe.
The date for the Guildford Trip was late `68/early `69.I remember seeing my first Skinhead(the Bovver Boy Look)in `68(Brixton).I can still see him,in my minds eye-a Mixed Race Boy with a faded Levi Jacket,Jungle Greens and Black Commando Boots.I bought the Commando Boots soon after.M-o-M we can argue between us about this subject of Jackets,but I know when I bought mine and I know they were worn in London(maybe not everywhere).I have said in the past about things being worn,and then got shouted down-only to get Photographic Evidence of them I did not carry a Camera around with me so I could not "record" Events.What abouit the Boys on the Beach??????

I'm not arguing it, just raising my eyebrows. I think we all forget that London (and its suburbs) is a big place.
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post #9426 of 12600
11/18/12 at 11:02pm
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

I believe we have an "Age" thing here.Maybe 16/17 year olds did not wear Levi Jackets,I have seen loads of Clips showing them wear Cardigans,Sleeveless Pullovers,Shirts and Braces and Boots-but not too many wearing Suits or Suit Jackets.Now we know they were worn.In your case may I suggest that-yes we are about the same Age,but you went to College and you did not have the money to spend.So you did not do so much "Window Shopping" as I did.I am not saying I was wealthy.Mile End Boys wore the Jungle Greens and Levi Jackets,and they were certainly worn on the Docks.

True about the money, but I did a hell of a lot of looking - being without much money means you have to do your best to look convincing on a budget, so looking is essential. Like I said, I'm not arguing, just raising my eyebrows in surprise.
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post #9427 of 12600
11/18/12 at 11:03pm
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Originally Posted by yankmod View Post

We've all seen this Doc.3 seconds in around the pool table there is a kid with a Levi's denim.This is east London as you can see there is Steve Thompson(wanna be journo)of Danny Eccles crew.The date given to this doc is Jan.69 and when Steve is in the barber chair he says he got into the skinhead scene 8 months prior which would have been April 68.   http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00jy2zh

Well spotted.
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post #9428 of 12600
11/18/12 at 11:05pm
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

Thank-you yankmod.I looked at that Clip earlier and missed it.So Lasttye and M-o-M,can we now put this to bed.There were bloody Levi Jackets worn in London and by younger Skins as well !!!!

"Calm down dear, it's a commercial." biggrin.gifwink.gif
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post #9429 of 12600
11/18/12 at 11:06pm
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Originally Posted by ek77 View Post

some well known and some less known pix on there and again a lot of denim jackets... wink.gif

No one's disputing that. The hot issue has always been 'where?'. smile.gif
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post #9430 of 12600
11/18/12 at 11:07pm
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Originally Posted by harrysgame View Post

These are Charlton Lads. This was posted on the old UK Skinheads site. Someone (Tom McCourt i think) said he knew one of the fellas and that it was Definatly Charlton Skinheads. I have seen it posted on a few sites before.

Blimey, I can remember going to The Valley...
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post #9431 of 12600
11/18/12 at 11:32pm
Okay, my last word on London and denim jackets.

I'm the same age as Brownie and I arrived in London in 1968 from the North, where Levi jackets (denim, cord, and even suede and leather for those who could afford them) had replaced the surf/bomber jacket for mods. My parents moved to the southernmost suburb in N Kent (West Wickham), I socialised in Bromley and Catford, shopped for records in Deptford, eventually went to college in New Cross, lived in digs/flats in Catford, Brockley, and Forest Hill. I dated girls from Lewisham and Greenwich, hung out at the Lewisham bowling alley. When I arrived in 1968 I was surprised to see no mods/totters in all that area wearing Levi jackets. I don't think I saw a single one (apart from the one belonging to 'Cockney Bob', but despite his nickname he was a northern ex-pat like me - the nickname was ironic). I was sad about that, because I thought at the time and still do, that a Levi jacket looked good with a pair of decent strides and shoes.

I can't give any other evidence, I can only say what I saw. But I will willingly and happily concede the following:

1] Denim jackets were worn by a lot of skinheads outside London. Never disputed that, and we have photographic evidence to back it up. Lots of it.

2] Again, like I said above, London is a big place, and although I traipsed across a lot of it including most of the football stadiums, I can't claim to have been everywhere. If skinheads in Levi jackets have been seen in places in London where I haven't been, then I am happy to believe whomever says he saw them. I'm not calling anyone who has posted on this thread on this issue a liar, or even mistaken.

3] I am sure earlier mods in London must have worn Levi jackets at one time. In fact we have some photographic evidence on this thread to indicate that. It seems impossible to me that such an iconic garment could have simply been 'discovered' outside London and ignored in the Capital.

Colin, mate, what say we bury the hatchet and give equal weight to the eyewitness account of anyone who was around in London at the time?
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post #9432 of 12600
11/19/12 at 12:04am
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Originally Posted by Aces and Eights View Post

The A207 Shooters Hill - i know it well.- many a long trudge home years ago.     

 

When flyfronted refers to " from the London Gentlemen / City banker." is he refering to 'A Merchant Banker' that has a totally diferent meaning 'Down Sarfe'

No mate .. a well dressed Crombie boy was very burlington arcade .. my tuppney worth for the jean jacket debate . Yes they were a out of london thing but Levi was a much much wanted label in the 60s and i guess kids would have worn anything with the red big E label on .. white Levis were popular with the older boys in North Kensington .

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post #9433 of 12600
11/19/12 at 12:08am
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Originally Posted by yankmod View Post

The Football Crews angle is an interesting part of this story.Nearly everyone had their crombie mugged off of them.Must have been a dark day.One thing I've heard(in other places)is that the scousers are theives.Where does this idea come from?

Was a well known thing for flash londoners to get there clobber taxed off them at matches up north in the late 60s - 70s. In turn they just got a kicking when they came to London as they didnt have anything worth robbing . 

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post #9434 of 12600
11/19/12 at 12:13am
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post

Okay, my last word on London and denim jackets.
I'm the same age as Brownie and I arrived in London in 1968 from the North, where Levi jackets (denim, cord, and even suede and leather for those who could afford them) had replaced the surf/bomber jacket for mods. My parents moved to the southernmost suburb in N Kent (West Wickham), I socialised in Bromley and Catford, shopped for records in Deptford, eventually went to college in New Cross, lived in digs/flats in Catford, Brockley, and Forest Hill. I dated girls from Lewisham and Greenwich, hung out at the Lewisham bowling alley. When I arrived in 1968 I was surprised to see no mods/totters in all that area wearing Levi jackets. I don't think I saw a single one (apart from the one belonging to 'Cockney Bob', but despite his nickname he was a northern ex-pat like me - the nickname was ironic). I was sad about that, because I thought at the time and still do, that a Levi jacket looked good with a pair of decent strides and shoes.
I can't give any other evidence, I can only say what I saw. But I will willingly and happily concede the following:
1] Denim jackets were worn by a lot of skinheads outside London. Never disputed that, and we have photographic evidence to back it up. Lots of it.
2] Again, like I said above, London is a big place, and although I traipsed across a lot of it including most of the football stadiums, I can't claim to have been everywhere. If skinheads in Levi jackets have been seen in places in London where I haven't been, then I am happy to believe whomever says he saw them. I'm not calling anyone who has posted on this thread on this issue a liar, or even mistaken.
3] I am sure earlier mods in London must have worn Levi jackets at one time. In fact we have some photographic evidence on this thread to indicate that. It seems impossible to me that such an iconic garment could have simply been 'discovered' outside London and ignored in the Capital.
Colin, mate, what say we bury the hatchet and give equal weight to the eyewitness account of anyone who was around in London at the time?

This discourse on Levi's Denim has been great.Truth is I wear my Levi's denim with my Levi's jeans.I wear what I like.Got a nice Filson Mackinaw original red hunting jacket my friend got in the thrift 20$ If you aren't familiar check them out.American made wool items.Top gear.

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post #9435 of 12600
11/19/12 at 12:37am

Filson has teemed up with Levi's.Here is the result.

700

2 Colors.Here is the link     http://www.filson.com/products/oil-finish-trucker-jacket.10502.html?fromCat=true&fvalsProduct=event/levis-workwear&fmetaProduct=ev20

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