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Originally Posted by browniecj 


Then I would not have known them-was never in the ICF.

10 years before the ICF .. west ham were Mile End / TBF / north bank boys back then. Pretty sure Toppers was the actual name of the shoe not a nickname ?

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Originally Posted by Darksideoftheforce 


Nice. Unfortunately Allen Edmonds are way above my price range. Maybe someday.
Anyway this may have been discussed in the past. So the question my be a recycle. But when it comes to trouser length for you original blokes how long was too long or how short was too short at the hem in the late 60s/early 70s? Did you hem your trousers at varying lengths depending on the type of shoes worn or boots? Pictures of originals seem to favor short trousers with socks showing, almost half mast when wearing regular shoes was this style pretty skinhead "standard" back in the day or did it really all depend on preference?

We wore shorter leg via turn ups on Levis, jungle greens and sta prest as they were worn with boots.  Trousers and suit trousers were worn normal ie hanging over the shoe but not crumpled.  You should understand that we were always smartly and traditionally dressed.  If we wore trousers at half mast with shoes and a lot of sock was on display you would look retarded like people of that time who attended mental institutions and were never supervised on how they were dressed when they were out and about.  This is nothing againt people with mental disablilities this was how it was 40 plus years ago.  We prided ourselves on being smartly dressed.

You still  see smart sharp Italian men bowling about the west end of london with there socks showing , its a very cool look that Beams ( Jap Ivy league label ) are rocking ..  red socks my fave .

a very subtle way of making Levis / Bass wejuns or Brogues a 'Look ' rather than dressed down friday at the office 

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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan 

And anyone wearing them 'unacceptably short' (whatever that meant) would be asked: 'Has the cat died?' (I reckon they were alluding to the 'half mast' element previously mentioned by A & E.)

I can still see an incident where walking through the market one our our lads would always insist on wearing Levis at half mast with shoes and a market trader shouted out "oi ave yer trousers had an argument wiv yer shoes"?  This embarrassment made me cringe as the 40 year old greengrocer was too big to have a go at and you could not give any lip because he would have not hesitated in lobbing a rotten apple / orange at you which would have resulted in further embarrassment.  At 16 you were very sensitive to any embarrassment because we thought we were so  cool and the business.  This is probably why I have always loathed the half mast jeans/trousers with shoes.  The incident just sticks in my head!!

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Originally Posted by Aces and Eights 

 

I can still see an incident where walking through the market one our our lads would always insist on wearing Levis at half mast with shoes and a market trader shouted out "oi ave yer trousers had an argument wiv yer shoes"?  This embarrassment made me cringe as the 40 year old greengrocer was too big to have a go at and you could not give any lip because he would have not hesitated in lobbing a rotten apple / orange at you which would have resulted in further embarrassment.  At 16 you were very sensitive to any embarrassment because we thought we were so  cool and the business.  This is probably why I have always loathed the half mast jeans/trousers with shoes.  The incident just sticks in my head!!

The further you got away from the source of the look ( IE London ) the more extreme it seemed to get . The levis got tighter , the boots bigger and the trousers higher and especially the barnet much shorter .