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Originally Posted by Lerk View Post

There's a bit approx around page 230 about earlier skinhead-like trends throughout history, and i recollected just those posts when i was reading some texts about the early Swedish workers movement and in particular there's the bombing of the english strike breaker ship Amalthea; In itself interesting for someone like me, but the one of the guys responsible for the deed back in 1908 was a guy called Anton Nilsson:

 

 

 

On the left in this picture.

 

Trends really go round and around dont they? Although, that sort of coat isn't really it, is it? But still it made my mind wander in the direction....

I know of a Left Communist who uses the first picture as an avatar!

 

On the green harrington's, Baracuta occasionally add a khaki G10 (mod style, slim) to their sale page. Not sure if they have left knocking about now of if they will make them again? I think they will do a big revamp soon as they have new owners and all that.

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Good nite in that there London, glad you didn't get lost Colin, ive been trying to convince myself that a heavy jacket/ tie combo is an easy way to lose weight, its not working

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This is hilarious, there's a part where the reporter's talking to the black skinhead kid and asks him if he's ever bashed anyone.
The kid replies something like "yes, greasers, hairies, rockers" and the reporter says in french "he's bashed people of italian origin and people with long hair". He associates "grease" with italians and it's the skinhead who's a racist, hehe...
Anyway, not that there weren't actual racist skins, but the idea of a black immigrant teenager who beat up rockers shown as an example of racism is pretty funny.
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Originally Posted by McDermott View Post

Posted on another forum im sure some of you are on as well was this great clip :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lNfVPrEK_KQ
French programme on skins being racist, but some great little bits of footage i hadnt seen before - thought it might appeal.
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Originally Posted by PxC View Post

This is hilarious, there's a part where the reporter's talking to the black skinhead kid and asks him if he's ever bashed anyone.
The kid replies something like "yes, greasers, hairies, rockers" and the reporter says in french "he's bashed people of italian origin and people with long hair". He associates "grease" with italians and it's the skinhead who's a racist, hehe...
Anyway, not that there weren't actual racist skins, but the idea of a black immigrant teenager who beat up rockers shown as an example of racism is pretty funny.

I can imagine an American reporter assuming he meant Mexicans - again who would be the racist, the skinhead or the reporter?
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Originally Posted by McDermott View Post

Yes...very true. Without going down the whole 'politics route'.. But i do think alot of skinheads today who preach this big anti-racist thing forget that kids did talk how they do today, racism was common but not in a political 80's way which happened later, just more 'casual racism' (not very Pc lol!) kind of a way. I think most white working class kids brought up in a rough area were a smidge racist till they knew better.

Everyone looking very smart in the pics. Makes me wish I could still fit in any suits I had..! Tend to go for smarter tailored strides now and nice knitwear etc, Jackets just dont do anything for my body shape now. Nice to see the three piece though, as said three pieces and ties dont seem to have made a comeback till recently though I always love both.

When you think,the Docks came out in support of Enoch Powell,in `68.People were uneasy about the influx of Immigrants because of Jobs.As I have said,I did not do it but it went on.The same as "Gay Bashing".We made a nice little earner out of keeping an eye on a local Gay Bar-stopping other Skinheads getting in,to cause problems.It paid for some of our Clothes.I think I know the Skinhead with the Sheepskin(with the Black Gang Member),if it is,he is living this way now.I will catch up with him and ask him. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Basset View Post

Good nite in that there London, glad you didn't get lost Colin, ive been trying to convince myself that a heavy jacket/ tie combo is an easy way to lose weight, its not working

It was funny Bassett.I bought a Suede Jacket with me,to Town,but decided not to wear it.I was concerned it would be hot and no Cloakroom(or would it be safe enough).Old Habits die hard Mate! smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post


I can imagine an American reporter assuming he meant Mexicans - again who would be the racist, the skinhead or the reporter?

 

 

Where i grew up the Skinheads and JA's ( not sure if that was what they called themselves or a Skin term for black boys ) had a truce while the poor indians got a awful time . Most were young or older family men and would be attacked merciless by gangs of very young skinheads . Same kids went Gay bashing . However it was not NF directed like the Bonehead revivalists of the late 70s , much more kids being nasty and horrible.

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I used to do Relief Management(for a Shoe Company)in the 60s.One of the Places I went to was Southall-in West London.As I was the only White walking the Street(to the Station) at 6:30pm,I was wary of the Gangs of Blacks and Asians who were constantly fighting each other.It is always the Skinheads who are blamed for Racism but the "Name Calling" from these two Groups(at each other) and the violence,was just as bad.This is never reported in the Media.The Jamaican Youth were also capable of Racism-regardless of what the "Liberalists" say.
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That is interesting Ed,because the "Bashing" went on,well before the Skinheads(`64).
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That quote from Marx is essentially the reasoning why in the ascendant period of capitalism (pre-WW1) he encouraged the (national) liberation of Ireland or so the argument goes. However, with the on set of the decline of capitalism and the world being thrown into the barbarism of world war this was no longer a progressive tactic. This period also saw the capitulation of most of the workers organisations to the war (the Bolsheviks and some other smaller groups being the exception) and the Trade Unions acting as recruiting sergeants to the imperial bloodbath and hence them no longer being an arena for working class struggle. But the main underlying factor was that permanent reforms would no longer be attainable under decadent capitalism, which is now decomposing all around the world. Along with the Russian Revolution this was now the age of 'wars and revolutions' or 'socialism or barbarism' to put it another way. Along with everywhere else in the world the liberation of Ireland is not through class collaboration (workers with bosses) and nationalism but the act of the working class both catholic and protestant or whatever against all kinds of state formations and capital and not based upon a single country but on an international basis. It's interesting to note that there was a period when the IRA for example was more radical, it wasn't a coincidence that this was due to the influence of the Russian Revolution and revolutionary wave that swept the world in the years that followed. In Ireland it took the form of the short lived Limerick Soviet which was eventually betrayed by the unions. An act which once again highlighted their new role in decadent capitalism, to bind the working class to the state and capital not act as a representative organ for emancipation and revolution.

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Anyone know much about Britac shirts? Couple of nice designs on their site but don't know anything about their quality or fit.

 

Any advice gratefully received as always chaps worship.gif


Edited by el norte - 10/3/12 at 12:06pm
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Many of the Britac Shirts seem to be doing the same strange thing many Mikkel Rude shirts does with the pocket texture not matching up. Sometimes it looks good, sometimes it looks less good.

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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

That is interesting Ed,because the "Bashing" went on,well before the Skinheads(`64).

Colin can you shed some light on racial tensions during those days? I have seen so many interviews with young mod boys with not that different views as some skinheads had like in that video that was just posted. And not that strange since a lot of those boys come from the same working class background and estates.

Anyone seen this little docu about Glasgow's gang problem from 1967, similar to the one Bunty posted months back since it also features the Easterhouse gang but it's not the same footage, all different footage:
http://vimeo.com/35847452
Edited by loempiavreter - 10/3/12 at 2:03pm
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Originally Posted by loempiavreter View Post

Colin can you shed some light on racial tensions during those days? I have seen so many interviews with young mod boys with not that different views as some skinheads had like in that video that was just posted. And not that strange since a lot of those boys come from the same working class background and estates.
Anyone seen this little docu about Glasgow's gang problem from 1967, similar to the one Bunty posted months back since it also features the Easterhouse gang but it's not the same footage, all different footage:
http://vimeo.com/35847452

Their was Race Riots in 1958 Notting Hill London..with the Teddy Boys and Blacks, All those years ago people was against Mass Immigration, Look at us now.
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