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post #8881 of 18908
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

By `69,the Ivy Shop was off my Radar.It had got expensive.I have been vilified by saying that John Simons did not care for Skinheads.But they were his main Customers,or a majority of them.Whenever I have worked in a Shop,I have learnt "Never Judge A Book By Its Cover".

Yes, I worked in a shop for a year or two when I first left school and that was the mantra – up to a point. Those customers who were ‘an Account Customer’ always got special treatment, which seemed odd to me as they paid on credit rather than cash (which was the main means of payment back then). But, in any case I am talking about an old traditional menswear shop (now sadly part of Debenhams) and not one that sought to set itself apart as JS obviously did.

I have witnessed a friend of mine, who was one of the first to open a Designer shop in the late 70s in my town (selling early Armani, Cerruti, etc), very openly discourage people from coming into his emporium. Sometimes he simply ignored them but on occasions actually said they were not the kind of people he wanted to serve!

I think that attitude was, and still is a very conscious policy of presenting a ‘high gate’ to maintain a certain image and I had no problem with JS in this respect. In fact that very attitude made you dress very carefully before setting off to pay homage at the shrine!
post #8882 of 18908
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Originally Posted by Brideshead View Post

Yes, I worked in a shop for a year or two when I first left school and that was the mantra – up to a point. Those customers who were ‘an Account Customer’ always got special treatment, which seemed odd to me as they paid on credit rather than cash (which was the main means of payment back then). But, in any case I am talking about an old traditional menswear shop (now sadly part of Debenhams) and not one that sought to set itself apart as JS obviously did.
I have witnessed a friend of mine, who was one of the first to open a Designer shop in the late 70s in my town (selling early Armani, Cerruti, etc), very openly discourage people from coming into his emporium. Sometimes he simply ignored them but on occasions actually said they were not the kind of people he wanted to serve!
I think that attitude was, and still is a very conscious policy of presenting a ‘high gate’ to maintain a certain image and I had no problem with JS in this respect. In fact that very attitude made you dress very carefully before setting off to pay homage at the shrine!

I have always thought of the British Actor,who had been refused a look at a a Roller(during the 60s),because he did not have the appropiate Clothes on.He later went in and paid Cash for the Car outright-when others of the "better off" put it on their Account.I have known one or two Wealthy People walk around in Jeans and T-Shirts(one in Guildford,during the 60s,looked like a Hippy but was one of the richest Men there).So being snobbish can put a potential Customer off-the money is the same colour. smile.gif
post #8883 of 18908

I work in retail. My heart is always been in clothes. I dunno why i just like good clothes and fabrics, the interesting thing is you meet so many people who were a part of a subculture. At Harvey nics were i work there is a guy who works on Pal zileri who is a proper ex-mod, last place i worked a original skinhead, my area manager was a causal etc. They clocked me straight away when i started working there and both clothing wise and attitude on various things we get on. You develop some sort of passion early on that stays with you, loads of guys in retail who were/are ex-causals, punks mods skins etc. Really lucky to have worked and learned from some of them.

Judging a customer always a bad move. There are people who literally smell of piss and rich tea biscuits who make more in a month then we do in a year i have served. Again even if there not after your product, there are sales assistants who would not help them - but theyd come back two weeks later and buy everything off you because you helped them last time. Good quality clothes and customer service really has gone to shit, so in a shop like JS i can see why he'd be like that to keep the numpties out. Id like to set up my own shop one day catering for TITK (those in the know!) maybe not specifically targeted at skins mods etc (not strong enough market) but just good quality threads that is going to make a guy look smart and classic, like JS.

post #8884 of 18908
Now,roll the Clock forward(say a couple of years).Grow your hair shoulder length,wear Cords,Jumpers and such like.You go in and buy Loafers etc.The attitude has now changed,the other side of the Counter.You now are not regarded as "Tea Leaves",a laugh and maybe a Joke.In reality,you are the same crowd that were Skinheads before-so what has changed?????? smile.gif
post #8885 of 18908
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

Now,roll the Clock forward(say a couple of years).Grow your hair shoulder length,wear Cords,Jumpers and such like.You go in and buy Loafers etc.The attitude has now changed,the other side of the Counter.You now are not regarded as "Tea Leaves",a laugh and maybe a Joke.In reality,you are the same crowd that were Skinheads before-so what has changed?????? smile.gif

I just had a pair of cords tailored in brown, and find myself wearing boots less and less and more heavy brogues loafers and smart knitwear etc. Like i said before, prefer it when people who think they are 'skinheads' would look right past you thinking nothing of it whilst those who really were there would look at you and wink. Not sure if i mentioned it before.. I got on the bus a while back and a guy (now dressed as a bum though!) said ''i like your brogues mate, i used to be a suedehead'' winked and got off the bus. I found it interesting that even though i had a Grade 1 hair he still called me suedehead and identified the clothes form that period. The whole oi! and political side and clinger on'ers have made me rethink my style a bit to the extent i dont particular want to be noticed as one of them. The photo in my avatar was from a few years ago. I wouldnt wear a harrington with cropped hair now that short, id prefer a M+S unlined one, or a suedejacket or cord jacket etc. Looking more towards Ivy as mentioned and toning down the look without attaching the label, its been said many times on here skinhead was coined kind of after the hype had started, much like with mod. By the time high streets were stocking the kit the originators

would have moved on.

post #8886 of 18908

I fail to see how these guy didn't get some broken windows telling people they weren't welcome and that they didn't wanna sell to your kind, but that discussion about the true rich people dressing like an average joe is funny because I just had that same discussion in person, in relation to people who get a little bit of money and getting stuck up and claiming everyone is inferior yet the bum on the corner could make them look like the pauper with their bank account.

post #8887 of 18908

Its been forever since i was last on here but i wanted to see if my hours and days of going through this forum paid off style wise

 

 

this was a week ago before heading out to mangos for the dancehall night my girl was pissed because she had her picture taken before she had on here fred perry dress

post #8888 of 18908
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Originally Posted by Sirryacus View Post

I fail to see how these guy didn't get some broken windows telling people they weren't welcome and that they didn't wanna sell to your kind, but that discussion about the true rich people dressing like an average joe is funny because I just had that same discussion in person, in relation to people who get a little bit of money and getting stuck up and claiming everyone is inferior yet the bum on the corner could make them look like the pauper with their bank account.

I have seen it many times.
post #8889 of 18908
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Originally Posted by TrojanBovverBoy View Post

Its been forever since i was last on here but i wanted to see if my hours and days of going through this forum paid off style wise


this was a week ago before heading out to mangos for the dancehall night my girl was pissed because she had her picture taken before she had on here fred perry dress

Looking smart Mate.The one thing that makes me laugh-and this is no reflection on your Girlfriend.Why do Women wear Furry or Lined Boots,when the weather is warm?Happens here all the time!!!
post #8890 of 18908
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Originally Posted by McDermott View Post

I just had a pair of cords tailored in brown, and find myself wearing boots less and less and more heavy brogues loafers and smart knitwear etc. Like i said before, prefer it when people who think they are 'skinheads' would look right past you thinking nothing of it whilst those who really were there would look at you and wink. Not sure if i mentioned it before.. I got on the bus a while back and a guy (now dressed as a bum though!) said ''i like your brogues mate, i used to be a suedehead'' winked and got off the bus. I found it interesting that even though i had a Grade 1 hair he still called me suedehead and identified the clothes form that period. The whole oi! and political side and clinger on'ers have made me rethink my style a bit to the extent i dont particular want to be noticed as one of them. The photo in my avatar was from a few years ago. I wouldnt wear a harrington with cropped hair now that short, id prefer a M+S unlined one, or a suedejacket or cord jacket etc. Looking more towards Ivy as mentioned and toning down the look without attaching the label, its been said many times on here skinhead was coined kind of after the hype had started, much like with mod. By the time high streets were stocking the kit the originators
would have moved on.

Funny, been back on track with boots ever since coming on here. Before I came on here I was almost exclusively wearing brogues. This summer I was mostly wearing Jungle greens, brown monkey boots and white t-shirts or fred perry tennis shirts. It's not smart at all, but it looks fantastic, great color. It was just to hot for denim. Also wore iceblue and beige needlecords, and levi sta-prest... always had horrible experience with sta-prests and the fit... but now I kinda found a pair of Levi Sta-prest trousers that fit and the cut look good.

McDermott you look like you are one of my peers, how old are you if I may ask?
post #8891 of 18908
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Originally Posted by loempiavreter View Post


Funny, been back on track with boots ever since coming on here. Before I came on here I was almost exclusively wearing brogues. This summer I was mostly wearing Jungle greens, brown monkey boots and white t-shirts or fred perry tennis shirts. It's not smart at all, but it looks fantastic, great color. It was just to hot for denim. Also wore iceblue and beige needlecords, and levi sta-prest... always had horrible experience with sta-prests and the fit... but now I kinda found a pair of Levi Sta-prest trousers that fit and the cut look good.
McDermott you look like you are one of my peers, how old are you if I may ask?

 

I Could/Can never do sta prest, I have really big thighs that means either getting my trousers tailored, or depending on the fit moving up one or two sizes and having the waist taken in. Unluckly with sta prest they dont really allow for that. Id like someone to make some proper parallel sta prest rather then these really skinny tapered kind thats aimed at the young 'mod' market (we can use mod rather loosely). Im 19 so maybe a bit younger then yourself fistbump.gif. Jungle greens are dead smart, i wear mine with leather white converse lace ups and a FP or t shirt with a tanktop over the top. classic look.

post #8892 of 18908
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Originally Posted by TrojanBovverBoy View Post

Its been forever since i was last on here but i wanted to see if my hours and days of going through this forum paid off style wise

 

 

this was a week ago before heading out to mangos for the dancehall night my girl was pissed because she had her picture taken before she had on here fred perry dress

 

A brutus shirt in texas. Love it.

 

When you said your girl was pissed, I thought, 'she looks ok to me, pretty sober infact'. Ha ha. Pissed means drunk over here, i'm guessing you mean pissed as in 'angry'.

I wish you could have stood the right slightly, so I could see that Texan coffee shop menu :) Waffles ;)

post #8893 of 18908
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Originally Posted by McDermott View Post

I Could/Can never do sta prest, I have really big thighs that means either getting my trousers tailored, or depending on the fit moving up one or two sizes and having the waist taken in. Unluckly with sta prest they dont really allow for that. Id like someone to make some proper parallel sta prest rather then these really skinny tapered kind thats aimed at the young 'mod' market (we can use mod rather loosely). Im 19 so maybe a bit younger then yourself fistbump.gif . Jungle greens are dead smart, i wear mine with leather white converse lace ups and a FP or t shirt with a tanktop over the top. classic look.

Did you get an original vintage pair of OG107 jungle greens or one of those japanese reissues?
Plain jungle greens, white t shirts and sleeveless jumpers are great combi.
post #8894 of 18908
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Originally Posted by flyfronted View Post

http://www.thebeatexcavation.com/article.php?s=slough-soul-boys
Interesting Blog / Article on the Skin - smooth - Soul boy route that a lot of the very young kids of 69 / 70 embarked upon .

I wonder if that colour pic showing the kid in the USAF bomber jacket is from the period? They were briefly in vogue in S E London in early 1970, as I've often said, but some people don't seem to associate them with the first generation of skins.
post #8895 of 18908

I can't front your game because your girl be all cute and whatnot (and I'm single as get alll). Outfit a great step in the right direction but tighten it all up just a bit. Smooth move on the finger bro.

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Originally Posted by TrojanBovverBoy View Post

Its been forever since i was last on here but i wanted to see if my hours and days of going through this forum paid off style wise

 

 

this was a week ago before heading out to mangos for the dancehall night my girl was pissed because she had her picture taken before she had on here fred perry dress

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