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Hello

I've posted here before looking for advise on long wings but I'm still empty handed.

I've got the chance to pick up a lightly used pair of shell Florsheim Imperial's for a good price.

They're a size 10 D, which should be around 9/9.5 in the UK. 

Would anyone wearing 10 in Florsheim's be able to measure their foot, heel to toe, so I can get an idea about how these will size. 

Shoe sizing varies so greatly it's frustrating but when it comes to shell long wings, the internet is pretty much my only choice.

 

Cheers 


Edited by Youngj - 8/18/12 at 1:46am
post #8687 of 18710
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

I dare say I should have introduced my take on 'soundsnpressure's' (thanks for the heads-up, btw) post with: 'When I was a lad...'
What next, 'chocolate bars are now smaller', or 'I've just seen these really cool slippers...' or maybe just a blunt, loud: Gercha!!!'?
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Actually I'm sure chocolate bars are smaller than they used to be, rounded down to the nearest appropriate metric weight. I believe you can longer buy fireworks that go BANG! in the UK now, like jumping-jacks or air-bombs.

Came as a shock a while back, to find that HP Sauce "The Great British Sauce" is now made in Poland and that Wagon Wheels are now made here in China.
post #8688 of 18710
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Originally Posted by MikeDT View Post

Actually I'm sure chocolate bars are smaller than they used to be, rounded down to the nearest appropriate metric weight. I believe you can longer buy fireworks that go BANG! in the UK now, like jumping-jacks or air-bombs.
Came as a shock a while back, to find that HP Sauce "The Great British Sauce" is now made in Poland and that Wagon Wheels are now made here in China.

Nooooooooo!

Party piece - and not altogether politically correct - ramming two into your mouth (no mean feat) and pretend to be Al Jolson, singing 'Mammy'.

(I know, I'll burn in Hell, but none of us baddies will get near the flames for all the bishops and priests at the front.) nod[1].gif

Edit: Just read my HP Sauce bottle... Spain. patch[1].gif
post #8689 of 18710
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

Nooooooooo!

Yeh...Willy Wonka closed his Birmingham chocolate factory a few years ago with massive layoffs. A queue of unemployed oompa-loompas half a mile long at Edgbaston Job Centre. Wonkabar production is now outsourced to Loompaland, where they can be made much more cheaply by low-paid, non-union, under-age, non-striking, hard-working, oompa-looompas.

Seriously though...I'm sure quite a lot of chocolate comes from China now, as do biscuits and sweets. Because they're easily air transported and have a fairly long shelf life. I know Mars and Kraft(Cadbury) do this, as do Aldi and Lidl with their confectionary products.

Mind you some of the cheap chocolate I can get locally can be rather disgusting. Snickers bars are quite expensive here, but they taste fine. Was on Skype a few months with a friend in Bristol, he was talking about these cheap Lidl wagon wheel type things he bought, said they where horrible. Next day I saw the exact same ones in the local supermarket, made by some Chinese company.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

Party piece - and not altogether politically correct - ramming two into your mouth (no mean feat) and pretend to be Al Jolson, singing 'Mammy'.
(I know, I'll burn in Hell, but none of us baddies will get near the flames for all the bishops and priests at the front.) nod[1].gif
Edit: Just read my HP Sauce bottle... Spain. patch[1].gif

Edited by MikeDT - 8/18/12 at 7:39am
post #8690 of 18710
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Originally Posted by MikeDT View Post

Yeh...Willy Wonka closed his Birmingham chocolate factory a few years ago with massive layoffs. A queue of unemployed oompa-loompas half a mile long at Edgbaston Job Centre. Wonkabar production is now outsourced to Loompaland, where they can be made much more cheaply by low-paid, non-union, under-age, non-striking, hard-working, oompa-looompas.
Seriously though...I'm sure quite a lot of chocolate comes from China now, as do biscuits and sweets. Because they're easily air transported and have a fairly long shelf life. I know Mars and Kraft(Cadbury) do this, as do Aldi and Lidl with their confectionary products.
Mind you some of the cheap chocolate I can get locally can be rather disgusting. Snickers bars are quite expensive here, but they taste fine. Was on Skype a few months with a friend in Bristol, he was talking about these cheap Lidl wagon wheel type things he bought, said they where horrible. Next day I saw the exact same ones in the local supermarket, made by some Chinese company.

We might wonder where the Tesco "value" coffee might come from...

Can't make this stuff up. Joke Coffee Co. of Beijing. I've had this, It tastes absolutely nothing like what I know as coffee, tastes much more like very strong Ovaltine.
post #8691 of 18710
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Originally Posted by MikeDT View Post

Yeh...Willy Wonka closed his Birmingham chocolate factory a few years ago with massive layoffs. A queue of unemployed oompa-loompas half a mile long at Edgbaston Job Centre. Wonkabar production is now outsourced to Loompaland, where they can be made much more cheaply by low-paid, non-union, under-age, non-striking, hard-working, oompa-looompas.
Seriously though...I'm sure quite a lot of chocolate comes from China now, as do biscuits and sweets. Because they're easily air transported and have a fairly long shelf life. I know Mars and Kraft(Cadbury) do this, as do Aldi and Lidl with their confectionary products.
Mind you some of the cheap chocolate I can get locally can be rather disgusting. Snickers bars are quite expensive here, but they taste fine. Was on Skype a few months with a friend in Bristol, he was talking about these cheap Lidl wagon wheel type things he bought, said they where horrible. Next day I saw the exact same ones in the local supermarket, made by some Chinese company.

Do not encourage him MikeDT

China has managed to "Flood" our Country with crap Goods-and still buying up more Companies.
post #8692 of 18710
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

i'm astonished - and not a little disappointed - by the prices of FP gear nowadays.
I seem to remember it was on a par - or slightly cheaper - than Slazenger back in the 60s and 70s.
£175 for a Harrington and £100 for a very average-looking shirt? icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
I could see the point if the gear was genuinely original (ok - old)... as opposed to re-issued clobber that could be knocked-up in some Chinese sweat shop.
Maybe I'm grumpy 'cos I'm old. satisfied.gif

 

If you could take this up with Fred Perry, I'd be very grateful Ed satisfied.gif

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If you could take this up with Fred Perry, I'd be very grateful Ed satisfied.gif

And imho, that's where Warrior Clothing gets it right. They may not be as old the FP brand, but they've pretty kept thier prices reasonable.

Since we're on the subject. Has anyone bought or considered buying fake FPs? From what I've seen on the internet some are so good its hard to tell a fake from an original.
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Originally Posted by Darksideoftheforce View Post

And imho, that's where Warrior Clothing gets it right. They may not be as old the FP brand, but they've pretty kept thier prices reasonable.
Since we're on the subject. Has anyone bought or considered buying fake FPs? From what I've seen on the internet some are so good its hard to tell a fake from an original.

Actually there's usually a reason for that. Very often the fakes are coming from the very same Chinese, Indian and Bangladeshi sweat shops that make the originals. It's known as unauthorised second-run production. Say a factory has a contract to make 10,000 polos for FP, they might actually make 15,000, FP doesn't know that, the extra production goes out the back door, to local stores and clothing markets here in China and around the world and out onto the internet. I've seen the cheap FPs here, in additon to which I''ve also seen Topman, Burton, Brooks Brothers, The Bay, Debenhams, M&S, C&A, BHS, Zara, Ben Sherman, Gap, River Island, Polo Ralph Lauren, Banana Republic, etc. even George from Asda been sold in local Chinese clothes stores and on Taobao.com. I'm asolutely sure that no one is going to fake George or Topman.

Also there's any number of apparel factories listed on Alibaba.com and Made-in-China.com that will make you convincing polos, sweats, hoodies, harringtons, etc to pretty much any design you like with any logo and tags, e.g. FP laurel leaves.

BTW there's two interesting and very informative books I've read quite recently, one is called "The Economics of Counterfeit Trade: Governments, Consumers, Pirates and Intellectual Property Rights" that's on Google Books, the other is called "Poorly Made in China". Plus I also know a few people(former students) that work in the Chinese apparel industry.
Edited by MikeDT - 8/18/12 at 4:32pm
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

Do not encourage him MikeDT
China has managed to "Flood" our Country with crap Goods-and still buying up more Companies.

It's also why there's now a sizeable population of British, American, Canadian and Australian expats living and working in China, such as myself. For me it was either this, or signing on for JSA(giro) at the local Job Centre with the prospect of stacking shelves in some supermarket.
post #8696 of 18710
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Originally Posted by MikeDT View Post

It's also why there's now a sizeable population of British, American, Canadian and Australian expats living and working in China, such as myself. For me it was either this, or signing on for JSA(giro) at the local Job Centre with the prospect of stacking shelves in some supermarket.

Good for them.I would not be able to do that myself(Age etc.I did Sign-On(and have Stacked Shelves)).What experience I have had with Chinese People-beyond the Takeaway Stage is:- Everything is alright when it is going alright for them,once it is not they are nasty little fckers.Myself and my Wife lived in a House,run by them,in East London.I became umemployed(through Sickness)and that was when the "fun" started.I got the Old Bill involved.Had to,for the sake of my Wife`s Safety.
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

Good for them.I would not be able to do that myself(Age etc.I did Sign-On(and have Stacked Shelves)).What experience I have had with Chinese People-beyond the Takeaway Stage is:- Everything is alright when it is going alright for them,once it is not they are nasty little fckers.Myself and my Wife lived in a House,run by them,in East London.I became umemployed(through Sickness)and that was when the "fun" started.I got the Old Bill involved.Had to,for the sake of my Wife`s Safety.

I've never actually had to deal with Chinese landlords myself, I've heard they can be bad, especially in China, where tenants have almost no rights whatsoever. It's always been handled by my employers. Accommodation came with the job. Although I'm currently single. When I first arrived here, I knew little about China and Chinese other than Take Away, plus a two holiday in Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong a few years ago. I originally gave myself six months to find something good, If not I'd return to the UK. Minus the air-fare cost, what I'd spent here, but having gained an experience. As it is, it's actually worked out very well for me. Plus I took the time to learn Mandarin, very important.. smile.gif For many people it probably doesn't work out well, it's an adventure. There's even an acronym for it, FILTH, Failed In London Try Hangzhou.

If anyone wants to read it, there's a currently a very interesting thread over in Business, Careers & Education called Jobs in China(Not the late Steve Jobs), it's very informative about living and working in the PRC...
http://www.styleforum.net/t/304454/jobs-in-china
Edited by MikeDT - 8/19/12 at 2:03am
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Originally Posted by MikeDT View Post

Actually there's usually a reason for that. Very often the fakes are coming from the very same Chinese, Indian and Bangladeshi sweat shops that make the originals. It's known as unauthorised second-run production. Say a factory has a contract to make 10,000 polos for FP, they might actually make 15,000, FP doesn't know that, the extra production goes out the back door, to local stores and clothing markets here in China and around the world and out onto the internet. I've seen the cheap FPs here, in additon to which I''ve also seen Topman, Burton, Brooks Brothers, The Bay, Debenhams, M&S, C&A, BHS, Zara, Ben Sherman, Gap, River Island, Polo Ralph Lauren, Banana Republic, etc. even George from Asda been sold in local Chinese clothes stores and on Taobao.com. I'm asolutely sure that no one is going to fake George or Topman.
Also there's any number of apparel factories listed on Alibaba.com and Made-in-China.com that will make you convincing polos, sweats, hoodies, harringtons, etc to pretty much any design you like with any logo and tags, e.g. FP laurel leaves.
BTW there's two interesting and very informative books I've read quite recently, one is called "The Economics of Counterfeit Trade: Governments, Consumers, Pirates and Intellectual Property Rights" that's on Google Books, the other is called "Poorly Made in China". Plus I also know a few people(former students) that work in the Chinese apparel industry.
think - given your contacts - there's a business opportunity for you here, Mike. nod[1].gif
post #8699 of 18710
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Originally Posted by MikeDT View Post

It's also why there's now a sizeable population of British, American, Canadian and Australian expats living and working in China, such as myself. For me it was either this, or signing on for JSA(giro) at the local Job Centre with the prospect of stacking shelves in some supermarket.
I did eight years in the 'gulf' - predominantly Saudi - it was shit... but profitable.

At 58, I'm too old to go anywhere but... who knows?
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Originally Posted by MikeDT View Post

I've never actually had to deal with Chinese landlords myself, I've heard they can be bad, especially in China, where tenants have almost no rights whatsoever. It's always been handled by my employers. Accommodation came with the job. Although I'm currently single. When I first arrived here, I knew little about China and Chinese other than Take Away, plus a two holiday in Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong a few years ago. I originally gave myself six months to find something good, If not I'd return to the UK. Minus the air-fare cost, what I'd spent here, but having gained an experience. As it is, it's actually worked out very well for me. Plus I took the time to learn Mandarin, very important.. smile.gif For many people it probably doesn't work out well, it's an adventure. There's even an acronym for it, FILTH, Failed In London Try Hangzhou.
If anyone wants to read it, there's a currently a very interesting thread over in Business, Careers & Education called Jobs in China(Not the late Steve Jobs), it's very informative about living and working in the PRC...
http://www.styleforum.net/t/304454/jobs-in-china

The Landlords are given "Loans" by the real Power People-mostly found in China Town(you guessed it,Organised Crime,Triads) to rent out Houses,not buy them, as a Family.They then illegally rent out Rooms(totally under the noses of the Local Borough).My Landlords used to go every week to China Town and pay the money etc.We wandered into this,after returning from Cyprus homeless.

I went away from here to better myself-plus I could not stand Blair.Good Luck to you,Mate.smile.gif
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