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DM's are for everyone mate - no exceptions.
And, if jeans are the heart of youth clothing, DMs are definitely the 'sole'. satisfied.gif

Thanks for the info Ed.In the US DM's are worn by subculture folks.Most commonly by folks who came from Punk and 2 tone(the dm shoes.My ex wife use to wear them as she was 2 tone)But also Hard Rock and Heavy Metal(the Black clothes,piercing,tatoo folks)I stuck with Clark's desert boots.My friends who had DM boots said they were cold in the winter so I wasn't interested.

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Thanks for the info Ed.In the US DM's are worn by subculture folks.Most commonly by folks who came from Punk and 2 tone(the dm shoes.My ex wife use to wear them as she was 2 tone)But also Hard Rock and Heavy Metal(the Black clothes,piercing,tatoo folks)I stuck with Clark's desert boots.My friends who had DM boots said they were cold in the winter so I wasn't interested.
From teachers and university lecturers to police - before they adopted the latest paramilitary footwear - firefighters, paramedics, school kids and grandads... everyone has worn them at sometime in their lives... or will. nod[1].gif
post #8643 of 18394
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From teachers and university lecturers to police - before they adopted the latest paramilitary footwear - firefighters, paramedics, school kids and grandads... everyone has worn them at sometime in their lives... or will. nod[1].gif

Do not forget "Trendy"A&R Men(the ones that were middle aged,had grey hair-tied back in a "Pony-Tail"-going bald on top)flitting around trying to do Deals.These were seen a lot around the West End.And the worst of the lot-Middle Class "Socialist" Politicians going around with Jeans,Boots,a Plastic Briefcases saying they were with the "Working Classes".This was very evident in Boroughs like Harringay,Hackney,Tower Hamlets etc.I saw Alistair Darling dressed like that(during the 80s)in Wood Green.That was the biggest Insult.
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

From teachers and university lecturers to police - before they adopted the latest paramilitary footwear - firefighters, paramedics, school kids and grandads... everyone has worn them at sometime in their lives... or will. nod[1].gif

 

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Do not forget "Trendy"A&R Men(the ones that were middle aged,had grey hair-tied back in a "Pony-Tail"-going bald on top)flitting around trying to do Deals.These were seen a lot around the West End.And the worst of the lot-Middle Class "Socialist" Politicians going around with Jeans,Boots,a Plastic Briefcases saying they were with the "Working Classes".This was very evident in Boroughs like Harringay,Hackney,Tower Hamlets etc.I saw Alistair Darling dressed like that(during the 80s)in Wood Green.That was the biggest Insult.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

From teachers and university lecturers to police - before they adopted the latest paramilitary footwear - firefighters, paramedics, school kids and grandads... everyone has worn them at sometime in their lives... or will. nod[1].gif

This info is good to know.So many UK things which have a much wider acceptance there are very very underground or non existant here.Even though you can get DM's at the mall here in New Mexico(very behind the times 10-15 years behind NYC where i'm from) it's still a youth subculture R & R thing

post #8645 of 18394
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I was thinking about the Music we love-Soul and Reggae(mostly)and how it influenced us.When did any of you first hear Music by Black Artists,that made you think there is a difference?
My first Introduction came via my Mum.She loved The Ink Spots,and when I was very,very young,She would have them on the Radiogram."Listen to the Voices-harmonising"Mum would say.She also liked the Platters-never the fast ones,always the Ballads.My Eldest Sister liked Rock and Roll(She went around with the Teddy Boys),my Favourite Singer then was Little Richard-He would put so much Energy into the Singing and Stage Movements(Elvis Presley was an Amateur).When I had the chance I would go into Her Room and put the Little Richards`78son.If She caught me,woe betide me.But it was worth it. smile.gif

Harry Balafonte, Paul Robeson, Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstriong, all thanks to my Dad. When I was a kid I once said I thought Tex Beneke (Glenn Miller Orchestra) was the best tenor sax player ever, and my Dad retorted, "What about Coleman Hawkins!"

My friend next door introduced me to the music Big Bill Broonzy, Leadbelly, Muddy Waters, Charles Mingus, and The Modern Jazz Quartet (he and his mates were real 'modernists' a couple of years older than I was).

BBC TV introduced me to Cy Grant and Nadia Catouse.

Radio Caroline introduced me to Jimmy McGriff, Little Stevie Wonder's 'Fingertips', and scores of acts I didn't know were black.

But what really set me going was when Booker T and the MGs released 'Green Onions' - a racially mixed group from the Southern States of the US, a daring concept in those days, and the guys who practically 'invented' soul.

I had heard 'Blue Beat' music on the radio, but it amounted to the Magill 5's 'Mockingbird Hill' and Millie Small's over-produced 'My Boy Lollipop'. It wasn't until I started buying ex-jukebox 45s at Smokey Joe's in Blackpool that I found real West Indian music.
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I'm new on here guys, fellow Trads help me out here! i am from New York..

 

Welcome Giovanny.

Your homework has to be reading through the whole thread, I'm afraid. biggrin.gif
post #8647 of 18394
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

And, if jeans are the heart of youth clothing, DMs are definitely the 'sole'. satisfied.gif

GROAN!
post #8648 of 18394
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

From teachers and university lecturers to police - before they adopted the latest paramilitary footwear - firefighters, paramedics, school kids and grandads... everyone has worn them at sometime in their lives... or will. nod[1].gif

My daughter (19, 3rd year Geography student at Glasgow Uni) wears a black pair with roses on. She has her own style, with elements of goth.
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When I read the other Posts,I remembered Harry Belafonte and Paul Robeson.When "Old Man River" came on the Radio,my Mum would turn the Volume right up.

A few Months ago,I walked into Sue Ryder Shop(in Spalding)and purchased some 50s EPs of Quincy Jones,Modern Jazz Quartet and others-all in Mint Condition(all for a £1 each).Love some of that Style.
post #8650 of 18394
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Originally Posted by yankmod View Post

 

 

 

This info is good to know.So many UK things which have a much wider acceptance there are very very underground or non existant here.Even though you can get DM's at the mall here in New Mexico(very behind the times 10-15 years behind NYC where i'm from) it's still a youth subculture R & R thing

I would have to disagree on that, I would venture to say dr. martens are a lot more popular than you think in the usa just on the fact that they have us distribution alone, I would also venture to say you just don't see them as often is because of the sheer number of choices we have out there.

post #8651 of 18394
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My daughter (19, 3rd year Geography student at Glasgow Uni) wears a black pair with roses on. She has her own style, with elements of goth.
And I have a pal - just the one - a well-known, Glasgow DJ, who wears a pair of tartan Docs - to all the Scotland games with his kilt.

It's a look I haven't attempted (yet) but there are plenty of these around. (I prefer Cats or Timberland with my kilt.) biggrin.gif

'We' (Scotland) have a friendly - versus Australia - tonight in Edinburgh but, a 500-mie round trip - despite the Proclaimers claiming they would walk it - on a work day is not (currently) a realistic proposition.
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GROAN!
I thought that would receive your approval - I liked it. satisfied.gif
post #8653 of 18394
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Harry Balafonte, Paul Robeson, Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstriong, all thanks to my Dad. When I was a kid I once said I thought Tex Beneke (Glenn Miller Orchestra) was the best tenor sax player ever, and my Dad retorted, "What about Coleman Hawkins!"
My friend next door introduced me to the music Big Bill Broonzy, Leadbelly, Muddy Waters, Charles Mingus, and The Modern Jazz Quartet (he and his mates were real 'modernists' a couple of years older than I was).
BBC TV introduced me to Cy Grant and Nadia Catouse.
Radio Caroline introduced me to Jimmy McGriff, Little Stevie Wonder's 'Fingertips', and scores of acts I didn't know were black.
But what really set me going was when Booker T and the MGs released 'Green Onions' - a racially mixed group from the Southern States of the US, a daring concept in those days, and the guys who practically 'invented' soul.
I had heard 'Blue Beat' music on the radio, but it amounted to the Magill 5's 'Mockingbird Hill' and Millie Small's over-produced 'My Boy Lollipop'. It wasn't until I started buying ex-jukebox 45s at Smokey Joe's in Blackpool that I found real West Indian music.
Good music - from wherever and by whoever - will always appeal... it transcends virtually everything.

As opposed to mere 'tunes'. nod[1].gif
post #8654 of 18394

What was the timeline with DM's ..  did Hawkins Astronaughts have a sole made by DM or was it just a similar design - what came first ?

post #8655 of 18394
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My daughter (19, 3rd year Geography student at Glasgow Uni) wears a black pair with roses on. She has her own style, with elements of goth.

I live in Teddington and every girl between the age of 10 and 18 wear DM's in all colours and designs on em ..  funny that its the middle class kids who wear em the working class kids from across the 316 in Feltham seem to stick with trainers .. complete turn around . In fact working class kids seem to have avoided ' youth cults ' while the student types happliy take bits of Mod / Skin / Punk .

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