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post #8506 of 19152
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Originally Posted by Kingstonian View Post


Pubs are a great British institution that are under serious threat from drinking at home, excessive tax, etc. In the late sixties we used to drink rubbish - keg beer and light and bitter before lager took over. Then ales improved in the 1970s. I would go out of my way to drink in a good pub.

According to my grandparents it used to be a lot more common to go out to the "bar" here in the united states, I won't get into the semantics of naming conventions here, so for the sake of this discussion bar will be synonymous with pub, they said it was a lot cheaper to go from the late 60's all the up to the mid to late 80's than it would be today, obviously it has always been cheaper to drink at home but I guess nowadays the gap between the two is even higher than ever, I would say the rise of restaurants stocked with full bars has a lot to with the decline here in the united states, it seems at even the most basic restaurant here in my state you can get at the very least a beer but most likely hard liquor as well and just about every store here sells beer and most stock every kind of liquor you can imagine and being in California an extra huge stock of wines, ironically the best deals price wise are at the local national chain pharmacy's. 

post #8507 of 19152
Raff, i just sent him my measurements.
Thickasthievesla.com.


Bars: in the states the benefits of bars are to find one with happy hours and a good tender who will give you free drinks as a regular. Can actually save you money and beats drinking alone or cleaning up other peoples empties and less pleasant leavings.
post #8508 of 19152
Nasty receptions on skinhead sites: part of the issue is people seeing movies like romper stomper and showing up either to "interview" skinheads, or asking endless questions having been answered hundreds of times over (like about lace color) or people just discovering it and only pursuing it by the Internet. Some scene vets are quite resentful of how easy it is to get into it now, like buying gear instantly, not facing the same stigma as 20 yrs ago, and a general feeling that "standards" for people who can stand up for themselves (and thus will stand up for you) are much lower.
It might be an American thing, but theres an aspect of hazing in many places to see if people are serious and can hold their own. Give them a hard time, and if they don't run, their in.

I can see value in some of that, but it does turn people off. But perhaps the best thing for new skins is probably to get off the computer and go support their scene and learn the basics the old fashioned way. smile.gif
Edited by Yankee - 8/6/12 at 8:35am
post #8509 of 19152
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Originally Posted by Sirryacus View Post

According to my grandparents it used to be a lot more common to go out to the "bar" here in the united states, I won't get into the semantics of naming conventions here, so for the sake of this discussion bar will be synonymous with pub, they said it was a lot cheaper to go from the late 60's all the up to the mid to late 80's than it would be today, obviously it has always been cheaper to drink at home but I guess nowadays the gap between the two is even higher than ever, I would say the rise of restaurants stocked with full bars has a lot to with the decline here in the united states, it seems at even the most basic restaurant here in my state you can get at the very least a beer but most likely hard liquor as well and just about every store here sells beer and most stock every kind of liquor you can imagine and being in California an extra huge stock of wines, ironically the best deals price wise are at the local national chain pharmacy's. 

In the UK it is a change in how people spend their leisure. Home comforts have had an impact - big telly, great hi fi and the freedom to smoke if you so choose. Pub going used to be a regular part of life. Not so much nowadays. Cost is one factor; but youngsters will pay a fortune in real terms to see a band or go to a football match (though recorded music is virtually free).

Attitudes also change as per the US book 'Bowling alone'
http://bowlingalone.com/
post #8510 of 19152
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post

Just a thought - any of the rest of you from 'back in the day' remember 'jungle greens' being referred to as 'dockers'?
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Jungle Greens,M-o-m.
post #8511 of 19152
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Originally Posted by Kingstonian View Post

In the UK it is a change in how people spend their leisure. Home comforts have had an impact - big telly, great hi fi and the freedom to smoke if you so choose. Pub going used to be a regular part of life. Not so much nowadays. Cost is one factor; but youngsters will pay a fortune in real terms to see a band or go to a football match (though recorded music is virtually free).
Attitudes also change as per the US book 'Bowling alone'
http://bowlingalone.com/

To me(and always has been) is going to a Pub and meet People-and then go elsewhere,maybe to a Club etc.I have run Pubs and have seen Punters come in night after night for drink.I could not do that,as I have said before it bores the Pants off me.I agree the Beer has got better,but I only drink a Pint usually because of Driving.The only time I have more is if I am at a Weekender or I am staying over.

Right,we have had our favourite Records,from the 60s etc.But what about the ones you would love to have collected all up,and burnt the lot-around the Skinhead Times.
Here is my main 5,but not in any Order:-

Joni Mitchell -"Yellow Taxi"
Thunderclap Newman-"Something In the Air"
Peter Sarstedt-"Where Do You Go (My Lovely)"
Sandi Shaw-"Monsieur DuPont"
Mary Hopkins-"Goodbye".

Believe me,there are many more but I thought I would get the Ball rolling!!!
I have not include Englebert Humperdink etc.,otherwise I would be here alnight. smile.gif
post #8512 of 19152
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post


Right,we have had our favourite Records,from the 60s etc.But what about the ones you would love to have collected all up,and burnt the lot-around the Skinhead Times.
Here is my main 5,but not in any Order:-
Joni Mitchell -"Yellow Taxi"
Thunderclap Newman-"Something In the Air"
Peter Sarstedt-"Where Do You Go (My Lovely)"
Sandi Shaw-"Monsieur DuPont"
Mary Hopkins-"Goodbye".
Believe me,there are many more but I thought I would get the Ball rolling!!!
I have not include Englebert Humperdink etc.,otherwise I would be here alnight. smile.gif

Fleetwood Mac - Albatross.
Scaffold - Lily the Pink
Noel Harrison(?) - Windmills of your Mind
Anything by Sandie Shaw or Lulu.

(Must give a thumbs-up! to Kenny Rogers and: Ruby, Don't Take Your Love to Town - particularly the disgusting version.)nod[1].gif
post #8513 of 19152
I have just noticed(bit slow I know) some good Suede Slip-on Loafers.They are from M&S and they are £59(mostly Leather-Leather and other Materials Sole).I quite like them-if anyone can get the Link up,still not too good on Computers-probably because I like Suede Shoes stretching back the Mod Days.smile.gif
post #8514 of 19152
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post


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Right,we have had our favourite Records,from the 60s etc.But what about the ones you would love to have collected all up,and burnt the lot-around the Skinhead Times.
. smile.gif

 

I did not really have any bad records from the Skinhead days but a couple that were not far behind that time that make me cringe are :-

 

Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep by Middle of the Road

Agadoo by Black Lace

The Birdie Song by Tweets

Dick-A-Dum-Dum by Des O'Connor

 

I cannot list any more as I am now felling nausea !!

 

You still see blokes of our age dancing to these at weddings etc - did they have no style when they were youths ?!!

post #8515 of 19152
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Originally Posted by Yankee View Post

Raff, i just sent him my measurements.
Thickasthievesla.com.
Bars: in the states the benefits of bars are to find one with happy hours and a good tender who will give you free drinks as a regular. Can actually save you money and beats drinking alone or cleaning up other peoples empties and less pleasant leavings.

American Bartenders are the best in the World, And they will buy you a drink back, biggrin.gif
post #8516 of 19152
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post

Just a thought - any of the rest of you from 'back in the day' remember 'jungle greens' being referred to as 'dockers'?

Correct ...MoM you have just jogged my memory,
post #8517 of 19152
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post


Fleetwood Mac - Albatross.
Scaffold - Lily the Pink
Noel Harrison(?) - Windmills of your Mind
Anything by Sandie Shaw or Lulu.
(Must give a thumbs-up! to Kenny Rogers and: Ruby, Don't Take Your Love to Town - particularly the disgusting version.)nod[1].gif


Lulu's shout, 600 mph of pure rubbish, only to be topped by tracey ulmans breakaway, 800 mph of pure rubbish

post #8518 of 19152
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

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Jungle Greens,M-o-m.


I always called em army trousers in the late 70's, same with the jumpers, mind you i was young then

post #8519 of 19152
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

To me(and always has been) is going to a Pub and meet People-and then go elsewhere,maybe to a Club etc.I have run Pubs and have seen Punters come in night after night for drink.I could not do that,as I have said before it bores the Pants off me.I agree the Beer has got better,but I only drink a Pint usually because of Driving.The only time I have more is if I am at a Weekender or I am staying over.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2184764/Young-people-regularly-drinking-pubs-falls-16-thousands-locals-close.html

I am not saying you have to live in the pub, but when I was young it was an inexpensive night out where you could meet up play darts, bar billiards etc. In London you do not need to drive to go to the pub.
post #8520 of 19152
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Originally Posted by Lasttye View Post

Correct ...MoM you have just jogged my memory,

I thought so, Roy, even though two of our contemporaries posted that they hadn't heard it, or that it was a later thing. Most people called them 'jungle greens' but I definitely did hear them called 'dockers' back then too.
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