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post #8056 of 18913
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Originally Posted by Gramps View Post

Right, I'm gonna cut you some slack here (another expression I hate, but it fits), as you probably have a lot to say, I just think you've started in the wrong way. I know what you have done, but I'd rather you find out for yourself.
The last thing I want, is for someone who was there, and can tell things from a different prospective, to feel alienated or unwelcome on here.

Well said, young man.
post #8057 of 18913
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Originally Posted by the real spirit View Post

it seems i have upset some,one with the truth, and because of this i have been blocked, some people dont like to be found out, that they are just dreamers.

 Maybe those like me who came around to skinhead in the 1980's are just nostalgic for what ever was the original skinheads scene. Skinheads get fed up with being branded ultra right wing so they want that which was the original scene. Nice to see younger skinheads around and let's hope some of the kids still in pushchairs will one day discover teh scene.

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I was born in 72 so could not possibly have been there in the original days. But when I was a skinhead I certainly did identify with the so called spirit of 69. Where I come from it was both a reaction to the rise of a rather virulent and violent strain of bonehead as well as alot of us had called ourselves rudeboys in our youth until we realised that white rude boys are pretty much skinheads. We basically went from being hunted in our own city to getting a couple more years under our belts and decimating the neo nazi thing here in melbourne.

 

We used the term "spirit of 69" as a way to take back skinhead from the rightwingers who had sullied the name. We were pretty succesful also due to a pretty smart media campaign where it got to the point where your average bloke on the street realised that there were actually skinheads around that weren't neo nazi's. Sharp played a pretty big part in that as well plus I am a few jumps to the left of trotsky anyway.

 

To me skinhead and to a similar extent all youth tribes belong to those that have the nutsack to go out in public representing whatever they are into. While it might be nice to reminisce and think you're the bigun cos you were there in 69 my experience as a skinhead is just as valid as far as I'm concerned. Just remember that you didn't have to worry about pretenders trying to destroy your scene by a shitty form of aping the basics without any real understanding what it is all about plus tying it to a disgusting brand of politics. If anything it was the blokes that kept the flame alive during the lean years that really deserve the pats on the back, even though you blokes who paved the way will always have my respect and admiration.

 

Seriously fella, I try not to get involved in internet squabbles in my dotage as fighting on the internet is like a couple of nuff nuffs having a slapping contest, basically everyone looks like a retard.

post #8059 of 18913
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Originally Posted by Raff72 View Post

I was born in 72 so could not possibly have been there in the original days. But when I was a skinhead I certainly did identify with the so called spirit of 69. Where I come from it was both a reaction to the rise of a rather virulent and violent strain of bonehead as well as alot of us had called ourselves rudeboys in our youth until we realised that white rude boys are pretty much skinheads. We basically went from being hunted in our own city to getting a couple more years under our belts and decimating the neo nazi thing here in melbourne.

 

We used the term "spirit of 69" as a way to take back skinhead from the rightwingers who had sullied the name. We were pretty succesful also due to a pretty smart media campaign where it got to the point where your average bloke on the street realised that there were actually skinheads around that weren't neo nazi's. Sharp played a pretty big part in that as well plus I am a few jumps to the left of trotsky anyway.

 

To me skinhead and to a similar extent all youth tribes belong to those that have the nutsack to go out in public representing whatever they are into. While it might be nice to reminisce and think you're the bigun cos you were there in 69 my experience as a skinhead is just as valid as far as I'm concerned. Just remember that you didn't have to worry about pretenders trying to destroy your scene by a shitty form of aping the basics without any real understanding what it is all about plus tying it to a disgusting brand of politics. If anything it was the blokes that kept the flame alive during the lean years that really deserve the pats on the back, even though you blokes who paved the way will always have my respect and admiration.

 

Seriously fella, I try not to get involved in internet squabbles in my dotage as fighting on the internet is like a couple of nuff nuffs having a slapping contest, basically everyone looks like a retard.

 

Good points.

 

I'm neither left nor right.

But I acknowledge that there wouldn't be a trad skinhead scene these days without 'post 69' skinheads defending the original scene from anybody that hijacked the scene which brought the skinhead name to the gutter. Namely the right wing boneheads, and cetain other groups/divisions that have just hijacked the look.

 

(p.s. I was born 73', so i missed 69, and was only 6 for the 79 revival) 


Edited by soundsnpressure - 7/1/12 at 4:36pm
post #8060 of 18913
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Originally Posted by Spirit of 69 View Post

Well my user name will tell those of you that know of these things where I'm coming from.

I grew up in central London in the 60s and 70s - I'm 47 now.
And I still like to "keep the faith" at ska,soul and reggae gigs
And I still like to wear my DMs, a checked shirt and jeans.

Any other original traditional London skinheads here?

I think "the real spirit" is reacting to the first post in this thread, that was started in 2008. He must have read the first post and then signed up to join this discussion.

Hope he adds some stories and pics to this excellent thread. Would be nice to have his input.
post #8061 of 18913
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Originally Posted by Alter View Post


I think "the real spirit" is reacting to the first post in this thread, that was started in 2008. He must have read the first post and then signed up to join this discussion.
Hope he adds some stories and pics to this excellent thread. Would be nice to have his input.

Ha ha. that's the link! method in the madness It makes sense now. what he said about being 47 etc.


Edited by soundsnpressure - 7/2/12 at 12:26am
post #8062 of 18913
Yeah it makes sense, and he throws some valid points. Sussed that straight away, just wanted him to find out himself.


Still no excuse for the attitude thought, and still no apology for accusing the wrong person.
post #8063 of 18913
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Originally Posted by Alter View Post

I think "the real spirit" is reacting to the first post in this thread, that was started in 2008. He must have read the first post and then signed up to join this discussion.
Hope he adds some stories and pics to this excellent thread. Would be nice to have his input.

He has some real catching up to do then.
post #8064 of 18913
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Originally Posted by soundsnpressure View Post

What are these harringtons like 'The real spirit' ? satisfied.gif  (spotted it in your avator pic)

I didn't think an 'original' would go for that look. with the patches and slogans etc. You tend to see this 'look' on folk that are new to the scene.

But if you were there from the begining, hats off to ya. tell us some stories or post some photos please

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Did not see anything like this in the 60s.Patches like the Jamaican Flag were not available in Shops(not like they are now).If you saw a Jamaican Flag,it was usually in a Jamaican Shop Window.In Brixton Market they were everywhare.I did not wear Badges or any Slogans-looked too bloody scruffy.

As yet we have left Politics out of here.That is exactly how I want to it to stay.We have our own views-but not here!
post #8065 of 18913
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Originally Posted by the real spirit View Post

yea , unlike you ,wannabees. i dont mind one bit you enjoying the mod/skinhead tradition, thats great but dont pretend to have been there because you will be found out, and by the way i am 60 years old and still ride my vespa with the m/c lyons, so i was 16+ in 1969 the birth of the skinheads, in 1970 the sun newspaper on the front page, labeled us as bovver boys, so the attitude to/wards the skinheads changed, for the worse, i know i am one of the original.
I come in peace but... I reckon you've got it all a bit arse-about-face here, pal.

You need to read the whole TS forum.

Many posters - such as yourself - and me, if truth be told (I'm 58 BTW) were 'in' around the start.

And many, who through no fault of their own - and I hate the fact they are soooooo young ;-) weren't... but love the whole trad skinhead ethos.

Liars and wannabes are quickly 'outed' here, there are too many originals who know the scene very well to be taken in. (Though the memory can play tricks as we get older.)

So, why not start again - it's up to you - tell us all a bit about yourself and we can all benefit from what you have to offer.

FTR: I live in Didsbury, just 'up the road' from the D & P (The Manchester Lyons unofficial HQ) and know Jim - rides the red and white Bilbao Lambretta - and probably a few others, too.

Know loads from Fallowfield, Burnage, Levenshulme, Rusholme and Wythy... let's have a pint, even?

A good crowd on here - join in and get your yoof(!) back. nod[1].gif
Edited by Ed Vaughan - 7/2/12 at 4:44am
post #8066 of 18913
Not been posting much of late, just going over the last 4 or 5 pages, The bloke who goes by the name The Real Spirt, Are you a wind up ?, or just a idiot, Read the fcuking thread before sticking your oar in.
Mate you say you was a Original ? So you was one of the millions who was a Skinhead in the late 60s, So what?

If you have anything to say of the period then lets hear them..otherwise fcuk off with your stupid comments.
post #8067 of 18913

Seriously fella, considering you came in here like a bull in a china shop I really think it would serve you best to live and let live just a little more. I for one am not impressed by those who try to throw their weight around on the internet as it is pointless. Take the hint and go with the flow a little more. I think everyone in here has gone ot of their way to give you the benefit of the doubt and it would be a shame if you didn't take advantage of that.

 

Aside from that it was great reading your second to last post, i'll have more of the same thanks bud.

post #8068 of 18913

On a slightly different note, do any of you fellas have any Mary Millington pics to share?? I am in the middle of building a few scoots and aside from a Vaughn Bode themed one I would love to do a Mary Millington themed custom as well.
 

post #8069 of 18913
Try Flickr - then type in the name. satisfied.gif
post #8070 of 18913
We have a lively one here.

Just because someone happened to be around during the late 60s it doesn't mean you can come on here and talk bollocks. I have more respect for some of the younger lot on here and probably know just as much, if not more than you. Wind your neck in Spirit, Read the whole thread and start again. angry.gif
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