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post #6586 of 18558
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Originally Posted by Pressure_Drop View Post


 I've always thought the window pane checks of Bennys and Brutus' sometimes clash with the jacket lining.



I've always had this trouble. Unless you are wearing a plain shirt or plain polo, check shirts never seem to sit nice with the tartan lining of a harrington. Can be very hard to match up.

 

post #6587 of 18558
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Originally Posted by soundsnpressure View Post



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Originally Posted by Pressure_Drop View Post


 I've always thought the window pane checks of Bennys and Brutus' sometimes clash with the jacket lining.



I've always had this trouble. Unless you are wearing a plain shirt or plain polo, check shirts never seem to sit nice with the tartan lining of a harrington. Can be very hard to match up.

 



Totally agree, which is why I never wear a checked shirt with a Harrington unless I'm also wearing a jumper. If it's too warm for a jumper then I wear a plain OCBD (white or blue) or a Fred or Ben tennis shirt with my Harringtons. 

 


Edited by London Rudeboy - 3/19/12 at 6:48am
post #6588 of 18558
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Originally Posted by noddy View Post




 


that suit belongs to one of the smartest skinheads that I know seems ever site I go on these days people seem to be passing comment on everyone elses clothes and style in a very negative way but I dont see anyone out at dos putting anymore effort in than the  same handful of people that always have done

I think if a person puts a pic up of his/hers clobber then people will comment, in this case the pic was not put up by the owner of the said suit, which is a bit unfair, The problem once you put something on the internet it can appear anywhere,

Getting back to the subject, what is being... or looking smart ??...we all have our own ideas, In my opinion the Original Skinhead Three pocket suit is a classic, The style was there before the Skinheads, and its been there ever since,[ without the trousers above the ankle that is smile.gif ]

If people want to spend a load of money having a suit made with multiple pockets, velvet collars etc... fair play to em. but its not for me, When i have had a suit made i have one thing in mind, Can i wear this suit on any occasion, and not look out of place, Thats it really. smile.gif
post #6589 of 18558
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Originally Posted by Lasttye View Post

in this case the pic was not put up by the owner of the said suit, which is a bit unfair, The problem once you put something on the internet it can appear anywhere,

in fact this suit is for sale on facebook and is not used to blame the owner or someone else.. it is just used as an example of suits with multiple pockets, as we talked about it on here....
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Getting back to the subject, what is being... or looking smart ??...we all have our own ideas, In my opinion the Original Skinhead Three pocket suit is a classic, The style was there before the Skinheads, and its been there ever since,[ without the trousers above the ankle that is smile.gif ]
If people want to spend a load of money having a suit made with multiple pockets, velvet collars etc... fair play to em. but its not for me, When i have had a suit made i have one thing in mind, Can i wear this suit on any occasion, and not look out of place, Thats it really. smile.gif

agreed!!!!
post #6590 of 18558

The thing is Lads and Lasses is that Skinhead fashion covers a diverse mixture of styles from around the country that went in and out of fashion depending where you were from and what you were into. Whilst  i agree the mutiple ticket pockets and velvet collars arent for me, point is they are trying and breaking away from the norm. I wear a mixture of all stuff, I dont even mind a nice two button suit or italian/60's/mod style stuff, as well as ivy league stuff (patch pockets, 2/3 rolls etc). Ive seen some clothes on people that had i seen on a hanger i wouldve thought were F**king Sh*te ! But on them they look effortless and well put together. So if i were the fella who owned the above suit, good on you mate least you are going to a tailors and getting something put together a bit different to suit yourself, rather then buying something from aceface or some crap fused piece of rubbish mass produced in Asia and labelled as Skinhead wear. 

post #6591 of 18558
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Originally Posted by ek77 View Post

talking bout multiple pockets.. it always can be worse... wink.gif
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A dozen buttons on the sleeve! I wonder if they open?
post #6592 of 18558
No two Skinheads were the same(as written elsewhere).We were a violatile Group then ,and as we get older we still retain some of that Spirit.In the past(during the 60s) I was critised about something I wore.I got over it.It happens.In the case of this Style of Jacket,I do not like it-have we come to a point where we cannot say our piece? It does not matter whether you are/were the "smartest Skinhead around" you still got critised.It would be interesting if the wearer of the Suit came on this Thread(not one of his Mates) and spoke about his influences. smile.gif
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Regarding the stuff like multiple pocket flaps,I see it as a form of "peacocking" and there is definately an element of it in the skinhead scene.The same goes for loud check vintage button down shirts.I`ve only ever seen one skinhead suit with velvet collars-definately not a common thing as far as I`m aware.A Velvet collar on a crombie looks very smart I think.

 

I think there is a place for raising the bar so to speak with the quality of clothes and style.And as others have said,some people can carry it off and others can`t,I think it`s how you put it all together.I do think though that if you go for the original look in todays scene,it`s important,in my opinion,that you do it right and skinheads in beagle collar shirts and ruperts don`t sit right with me.Fair enough if you`re into the smoothie image,then go for it,but if you consider your self a skinhead,then I think you should get things right.It sort of falls into the fashion no,no`s of belts and braces,rolled up jeans,braces over the top of jumpers,that sort of thing.I might sound like I`m being a bit like the fashion police but it`s just my opinion. I don`t have a wardrobe full of twisted tag Bennies or Dormieul Tonik suits,but I do like to wear the best I can afford and I do make an effort to be smart.

post #6594 of 18558
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Originally Posted by Shep View Post

Regarding the stuff like multiple pocket flaps,I see it as a form of "peacocking" and there is definately an element of it in the skinhead scene.The same goes for loud check vintage button down shirts.I`ve only ever seen one skinhead suit with velvet collars-definately not a common thing as far as I`m aware.A Velvet collar on a crombie looks very smart I think.

I think there is a place for raising the bar so to speak with the quality of clothes and style.And as others have said,some people can carry it off and others can`t,I think it`s how you put it all together.I do think though that if you go for the original look in todays scene,it`s important,in my opinion,that you do it right and skinheads in beagle collar shirts and ruperts don`t sit right with me.Fair enough if you`re into the smoothie image,then go for it,but if you consider your self a skinhead,then I think you should get things right.It sort of falls into the fashion no,no`s of belts and braces,rolled up jeans,braces over the top of jumpers,that sort of thing.I might sound like I`m being a bit like the fashion police but it`s just my opinion. I don`t have a wardrobe full of twisted tag Bennies or Dormieul Tonik suits,but I do like to wear the best I can afford and I do make an effort to be smart.

Well said Shep!!
post #6595 of 18558
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Originally Posted by Shep View Post

Regarding the stuff like multiple pocket flaps,I see it as a form of "peacocking" and there is definately an element of it in the skinhead scene.The same goes for loud check vintage button down shirts.I`ve only ever seen one skinhead suit with velvet collars-definately not a common thing as far as I`m aware.A Velvet collar on a crombie looks very smart I think.

I think there is a place for raising the bar so to speak with the quality of clothes and style.And as others have said,some people can carry it off and others can`t,I think it`s how you put it all together.I do think though that if you go for the original look in todays scene,it`s important,in my opinion,that you do it right and skinheads in beagle collar shirts and ruperts don`t sit right with me.Fair enough if you`re into the smoothie image,then go for it,but if you consider your self a skinhead,then I think you should get things right.It sort of falls into the fashion no,no`s of belts and braces,rolled up jeans,braces over the top of jumpers,that sort of thing.I might sound like I`m being a bit like the fashion police but it`s just my opinion. I don`t have a wardrobe full of twisted tag Bennies or Dormieul Tonik suits,but I do like to wear the best I can afford and I do make an effort to be smart.

I fully agree Shep, that if you’re gonna do it, do it to the best of your ability. It doesn’t have to be a who’s got the rarest thing of ebay this week, but (in my opinion)who best replicates the original look. But what look?
So, as for dressing like a ‘skinhead’ – that depends on what look you’re going for.

As has been massively discussed on this forum is the transition from mod to skinhead and how the look evolved before the ‘skinhead’ title was slapped on it and millions of kids tagged along for the ride. But if that’s the case, when you’re dressing like what would soon become skinhead but isn’t yet, then are you a skinhead? And once the kids are all skinheads and the older lads are moving on, changing their style, growing their hair – is that still skinhead? In some areas, terms like suedehead and smoothie were used and for many it was just progression and they didn’t think to put a label on it. But if you’re trying to disassociate yourself with the mass-produced skinhead style, then are you a skinhead?

A beagle collared shirt, in the right context, I think can look great. Can’t say it looks that appropriate with a number one crop as these things missed each other by quite a time, back in the day. But worn with the right gear, hair etc – great.

Rolled up jeans? Can’t see a problem with that, if you roll them up properly. There’s more than one way to skin a cat. You can do almost anything badly and it will always look bad.
Braces over jumpers – admitted not one of the smarter looks but very original at certain times, as the old photos often display. I could list a hundred things worse than that, often seen in many so called ‘traditional skinhead’ circles.

So when you say ‘original skinhead’, is that from ’67 to ’71, ’72, ’73 and all it encompasses? Or Spring ’69 til about xmas of the same year?

I’m all for the “fashion police” approach, but it depends on whose laws you’re upholding!
post #6596 of 18558
^^^ excellent post Buttons, a lot of good points brought up. My mate in Japan, Jun (pictured a few pages ago from my Tokyo trip) wears a lot of the smooth gear (ruperts, beagle collars etc), but it works on him and he reminds me of the English fellow Will whom I've seen tons of pics, both into that post-1970 look

Being in 2012 we have the luxury of looking back and taking elements of the 50 some years of skinhead style, even if it wasnt technically "skinhead" back in its day, it's all been clustered under the "skinhead umbrella"

But I'm with Shep, if you're going to call yourself a skinhead then it's important to get as much of it right as you can. I dont get guys who say they are skinheads but put in so little effort to get their gear correct.
Edited by Get Smart - 3/20/12 at 6:49am
post #6597 of 18558
The 'peacock' comment is spot on, unfortunately it has led to some fashion disasters - the 12 buttons up the sleeve on the now infamous multiple pocket suit was a fairly common sight in late 1971 I reckon, as were buttons either side of the single back vent which served no purpose except to say 'look at me'.

Once us skinheads finally crossed the rubicon and grew our hair and ditched our tonics the shackles were unleashed - a friend of mine had a pale grey suit made and decided to go for a longer length jacket (almost down to his knees) with black stitching and black buttons - he wore it for the first time at college on a Monday morning (this would have been late 72) only to be greeted with calls of 'Them damned Yankees!' as it resembled a Confederate officers' long coat - suffice to say he never wore it to college again.biggrin.gif
post #6598 of 18558
This peacock thing, I did not see it in London, Suits was bog standard Three pocket, The single rear vent got a little high but that was it, material was plain mohair, I did not see a lot of To-tone, except in trousers, my first suit was Mid Blue/Black Mohair, my second and last suit was Dark Green..with a Red pinstripe.
As i have said the style for us was very Regimented, although you wanted to get noticed, you was always scared of making a fool of yourself, this did not only apply to cloths it was the whole way which you behaved, like if you went to a dance most the time you would spend leaning up against the wall looking at the girls on the dance floor trying to look hard , even approaching a girl for a dance was done in a certain way,
Your status in the gang was very important... as how you was looked upon by girls and by your mates for that matter, it was a fine balance, Dress, Fighting and your Manner. You did not have to be hard, just have the balls to stand with your mates when it kicked off, with your manner it was knowing when to talk and when not too. Saying the right things really.

Is funny i found the lads who looked the part was often the lads who was the part, I also found that years later in the Army,smile.gif
Edited by Lasttye - 3/20/12 at 2:47pm
post #6599 of 18558
As much as I admire the Mod cut of suit, personally I think that you have to be a young man to be able to carry it off with any style, also it does look dated. The cut of the later 60s 'Skinhead' suit is/can be a lot more subtle and 'grown up' As Roy says, can be worn for any occasion whereas a Mod suit will always look 'fancy dress' on an old geezer. (Weller hair cut, parka, you get the picture) Though I'm probably the only one who thinks this biggrin.gif

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post #6600 of 18558
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Originally Posted by bunty View Post

As much as I admire the Mod cut of suit, personally I think that you have to be a young man to be able to carry it off with any style, also it does look dated. The cut of the later 60s 'Skinhead' suit is/can be a lot more subtle and 'grown up' As Roy says, can be worn for any occasion whereas a Mod suit will always look 'fancy dress' on an old geezer. (Weller hair cut, parka, you get the picture) Though I'm probably the only one who thinks this biggrin.gif
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I know where you are coming from,bunty.
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