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post #6451 of 19257
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Originally Posted by Lasttye View Post

The original 60s Skinhead suit was fairly plain, No loads of pockets or velvet collars, and the material was mostly plain colours.

so in your opinion, what is the difference between a "skinhead suit" in 60s, versus a regular "well dressed man" suit from the same era? or is there a difference at all?

the multiple ticket pocket thing has always interested me, because I first heard of it in the 80s but I would assume that SOMEONE in the 60s must have worn such a suit for it to have been something for the new 70/80s generation of skinheads to pick up on. I dont think anyone was that clued up on tailoring to have invented it in the revival years and passed it off as "original". most of the multiple ticket pocket suits I have seen are terrible, with the ticket pocket flaps being too tall and too much space between pockets, so that the topmost pocket is at the level of your nipples. Looks very awkward and reminds me of fish gills. gives "sharkskin suit" a different meaning altogether

in that regard I find clued-up mods to have a far better eye at seeing a good suit fit vs bad suit fit than many skinheads who wear suits
post #6452 of 19257
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Originally Posted by Get Smart View Post

so in your opinion, what is the difference between a "skinhead suit" in 60s, versus a regular "well dressed man" suit from the same era? or is there a difference at all?
the multiple ticket pocket thing has always interested me, because I first heard of it in the 80s but I would assume that SOMEONE in the 60s must have worn such a suit for it to have been something for the new 70/80s generation of skinheads to pick up on. I dont think anyone was that clued up on tailoring to have invented it in the revival years and passed it off as "original". most of the multiple ticket pocket suits I have seen are terrible, with the ticket pocket flaps being too tall and too much space between pockets, so that the topmost pocket is at the level of your nipples. Looks very awkward and reminds me of fish gills. gives "sharkskin suit" a different meaning altogether
in that regard I find clued-up mods to have a far better eye at seeing a good suit fit vs bad suit fit than many skinheads who wear suits

In the mid 60s Men who was say to old to be a Mod wore the Italian suit look, just take a look at the well dressed Kray twins to see what i mean.
By the late 60s you still had Flower power Hippie look, all i can think of the well dressed Man about town is the Jason King look, biggrin.gif

The Skinhead suit was smart, and would not have looked out of place in a office or any function, Regarding multiple pockets...i just don't know where 80s Skinheads got the idea, I never saw it myself, You would get all the smart Skinheads in the Tottenham Royal, People was so obsessed with cloths that you would have noticed multiple pockets or velvet collars, all i can say maybe people read what Jim Ferguson wrote and take it as gospel, Or maybe it happened outside London. I just don't know, Maybe buttons has more on the subject.

I do agree Mods have a better eye for a suit, This could be that their is more books with nice photos of smart Mods about, Also people associate Mods with Smartness, but Skinheads with Thuggery, People forget the original Skinhead was far smarter than the Mods, But the general public just remember Right Wing 80s Skinheads,

This is where the Book coming out from this Thread will put the record straight.
post #6453 of 19257

yes thats me bro im 56 now what about you , what part of town were you from mate you must have got your glassess from the same shop lol

post #6454 of 19257
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post


Alan, is that you at the top? The bottom two are me at 18. You must have been the long-lost younger brother I never knew I had!


yes mate im 15

post #6455 of 19257

im around 15 in that pic  was you a mod before , iwas to young for the clothes so i was well pleased when along come the skins the first time i see the new move from mod was over wanstead flats fair  i was with my mum and dad , and we was by the old boxing booth, and there was a fight between two guys , both from two large groups , one of the groups stood right out, short hair, chunky cardigans rolled up jeans braces, i remember me mum saying what a smart bunch of lads even though they were having a punch up, that was me hooked  i found an old pic of me i reckon 1968 ish white t shirt old jeans non make plimsols with braces and about a number 3 cut , then i remember some time after convincing me mum to give me the dough for my first docs which i brought from blackmans i brought steel caps by mistake they had the off white band at the top that went red when you used ya ox blood polish on em

post #6456 of 19257
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Originally Posted by buttons View Post

While we're on the subject of Marten shoes (Dr Marten and Hawkins, and I suppose Tredair, Solovair etc), what's everyone's earliest memories of seeing these for sale?

I believe I started seeing these in `69.I bought a pair about then.
post #6457 of 19257
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

I believe I started seeing these in `69.I bought a pair about then.

Cant see the point of DM Shoes, They look like Spastics footwear, biggrin.gif
post #6458 of 19257
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Originally Posted by London Rudeboy View Post

Talking about suits at an early age.
How many kids nowadays own a suit by the time they're 10?  Not many. I had my first suit for my Confirmation when I was about 10, navy it was. 
My first adult suit was a double breasted POW with turnups.
Even teenagers and young men, most men nowadays don't seem to own suits at all, and don't seem to buy a suit until they suddenly need one for an event of some sort.  

I had a suit at 7 for First Communion. Short trousers though.

I did not really start wearing long trousers until secondary school - constant scabs on the knees from falling over. Wash the blood off and tie a hankie around it.
post #6459 of 19257
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Originally Posted by Lasttye View Post

Cant see the point of DM Shoes, They look like Spastics footwear, biggrin.gif

they are the most comfortable shoes ever, if you dont wanna wear boots everyday....
post #6460 of 19257
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Originally Posted by Lasttye View Post

In the mid 60s Men who was say to old to be a Mod wore the Italian suit look, just take a look at the well dressed Kray twins to see what i mean.
By the late 60s you still had Flower power Hippie look, all i can think of the well dressed Man about town is the Jason King look, biggrin.gif
The Skinhead suit was smart, and would not have looked out of place in a office or any function, Regarding multiple pockets...i just don't know where 80s Skinheads got the idea, I never saw it myself, You would get all the smart Skinheads in the Tottenham Royal, People was so obsessed with cloths that you would have noticed multiple pockets or velvet collars, all i can say maybe people read what Jim Ferguson wrote and take it as gospel, Or maybe it happened outside London. I just don't know, Maybe buttons has more on the subject.
I do agree Mods have a better eye for a suit, This could be that their is more books with nice photos of smart Mods about, Also people associate Mods with Smartness, but Skinheads with Thuggery, People forget the original Skinhead was far smarter than the Mods, But the general public just remember Right Wing 80s Skinheads,
This is where the Book coming out from this Thread will put the record straight.

Just for you Roy -

Peter Wyngarde (Everybody's dad's favourite biggrin.gif) 'The Hippie and the Skinhead' (1970) from his spoken word album...very strange...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6tdG0Ivz5uI
post #6461 of 19257
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Originally Posted by Lasttye View Post

Cant see the point of DM Shoes, They look like Spastics footwear, biggrin.gif

They were comfortable and you could wear them into Pubs etc.People thought you were less aggressive with them on.
post #6462 of 19257
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Originally Posted by Kingstonian View Post

I had a suit at 7 for First Communion. Short trousers though.
I did not really start wearing long trousers until secondary school - constant scabs on the knees from falling over. Wash the blood off and tie a hankie around it.

They probably shut the School now-health and safety.smile.gif
post #6463 of 19257
Peter Wyngarde/Jason King was top man with the Ladies on TV 60s/70 until he got caught in a Mens Public toilet, biggrin.gif
post #6464 of 19257
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Originally Posted by Lasttye View Post

Peter Wyngarde/Jason King was top man with the Ladies on TV 60s/70 until he got caught in a Mens Public toilet, biggrin.gif

saw him a few years ago,on one of the Programmes.still looks the same.
post #6465 of 19257
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

saw him a few years ago,on one of the Programmes.still looks the same.

I thought Jason King was brill in a wacky sort of way, He got fcuk all work after he got sussed out. biggrin.gif
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