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post #586 of 24872
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Originally Posted by AntiHero84 View Post
I forget if I've asked this before, but where does the term "herberts" originate? I've heard it in quite a few songs and it seems to be something skin related, but altogether different.

i always thought it meant a derogatory term used by skinheads to refer to normal people as. I'm sure MoM has a more firsthand definition
post #587 of 24872
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Originally Posted by Get Smart View Post
i always thought it meant a derogatory term used by skinheads to refer to normal people as. I'm sure MoM has a more firsthand definition

"Herbert" is simply Brit slang for an idiot, and it's been in use for decades - my dad used it way before there were such things as skins. Back in the day we would call someone a "Wally", not a Herbert.

Incidentally, in the episode of Star Trek The Way To Eden (19th episode of the 3rd season, broadcast in 1969), the term "Herbert" is applied to Captain Kirk by a band of space-hippies; apparently the "Herbert" in question was a petty official noted for his limited capacity for thought.

Here's Spock convincing the space-hippies that at least he isn't Herbert.


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post #588 of 24872
M-o-M, are you a football supporter? i must confess my love of west ham (been over to upton park on several occasions) was instilled in me by listening to plenty of cockney rejects and cock sparrer.

you mentioned moving from the north down, just wonder if you have a club you support?
post #589 of 24872
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post
Incidentally, in the episode of Star Trek The Way To Eden (19th episode of the 3rd season, broadcast in 1969), the term "Herbert" is applied to Captain Kirk by a band of space-hippies; apparently the "Herbert" in question was a petty official noted for his limited capacity for thought.

By the way, here it is. You hear the word used first at 4:05, and at 7:33 we hear the hippies give it to Kirk big time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V_oHpHsFfI
post #590 of 24872
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Originally Posted by eightdouble View Post
M-o-M, are you a football supporter? i must confess my love of west ham (been over to upton park on several occasions) was instilled in me by listening to plenty of cockney rejects and cock sparrer.

you mentioned moving from the north down, just wonder if you have a club you support?

I used to follow football quite a lot, but gave up following it at all after Hillsborough and Heysel.

When I was in London most of my native Londoner mates supported Crystal Palace, and I often went there. I was also friendly with a bunch of ex-pat Scousers, and we would go to all Liverpool's London away games. If they weren't playing down there, we'd see if Blackpool were visiting a London club. If not, we'd just pick what looked like the best match.

Anyhow, since then I have lost patience with football, and have gone back to my first love, which was/is cricket.
post #591 of 24872
blackpool are actually in east london tomorrow, i'm all nerves. fair enough on quitting the football. it's a rough time to be a west ham fan as well as a crystal palace fan. so i hope the cricket is treating you more kindly. i always see highlights on skysports but i can't pick up what exactly is going on.
post #592 of 24872
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blackpool are actually in east london tomorrow, i'm all nerves. fair enough on quitting the football. it's a rough time to be a west ham fan as well as a crystal palace fan.

Blackpool are in the big time these days - wasn't always so, I can tell you!

I'll run down the London stadia I visited in the late 60s and early 70s:

West Ham at Upton Park, Millwall at The Den, Charlton at The Valley, Crystal Palace of course at Selhurst Park, Arsenal at Highbury, Chelsea, QPR at Loftus Road, Tottenham Hotspur at White Hart Lane, Leyton Orient... I think the only one I didn't visit was Brentford. I also visited the famous towers of Wembley. Of course at one time there were shedloads of skinheads on the terraces.


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so i hope the cricket is treating you more kindly. i always see highlights on skysports but i can't pick up what exactly is going on.

I'm a big fan of the England team, and they're just about to go head-to-head with their arch-rivals Australia in the Ashes series (a series of five matches, each one taking place over five days).

How much further off-topic can we possibly take this thread?
post #593 of 24872
I finally got whole episode of Man Alive, but I don't understand it much. Subtitles (at least English) would be nice
http://www.uloz.to/6544826/man-alive...ngels-1969-flv

What about that Lonsdale? How did this brand get into skinhead style?
And what about sideburns, where they popular?
post #594 of 24872
i have heard that lonsdale became popular with racist skinheads because with an unbuttoned jacket on you read the letters NSDA, which is understood to be NSDAP (the same initials as the nazi political party)

and perhaps just carried into fashion from there.
post #595 of 24872
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I finally got whole episode of Man Alive, but I don't understand it much. Subtitles (at least English) would be nice

If you can get a copy to me (sorry, I don't understand Polish download instructions) I can transcribe and explain some of the dialogue.


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And what about sideburns, where they popular?

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post #596 of 24872
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Originally Posted by eightdouble View Post
i have heard that lonsdale became popular with racist skinheads because with an unbuttoned jacket on you read the letters NSDA, which is understood to be NSDAP (the same initials as the nazi political party) and perhaps just carried into fashion from there.
or could be because boxing is popular and it had a cool font. Strangely enough i didn't see one skin the whole time i lived in England. ( i did see my fair share of chavs...a lifetime's worth lol) Yet i saw one in a small town in Louisiana.
post #597 of 24872
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Originally Posted by il ciclista View Post
I did see my fair share of chavs...a lifetime's worth lol

Oh you poor lad!
post #598 of 24872
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post
Nope. Ben Sherman, Brutus, and the Squire Shop up West, and that was that!

When you say the Squire shop, which shirts were you buying from there? I think I already know the answer to this but I'm interested to see how you word it and how you saw them in comparison to the easier to obtain British shirts.
post #599 of 24872
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Originally Posted by Ancillotti View Post
When you say the Squire shop, which shirts were you buying from there? I think I already know the answer to this but I'm interested to see how you word it and how you saw them in comparison to the easier to obtain British shirts.

We were buying short-sleeved, American-style, sport shirts with button-down collars. A mate of mine was the first person I saw wearing one (yellow, with blue window-pane check), and I was the second (blue, with yellow window-pane check). We saw them as being classier and more exclusive. They were a couple of pounds more expensive.
post #600 of 24872
Interesting!
How did you view the baggier cut compared with the slim fit of Ben Shermans at the time?
I'm guessing this was at the time when Ben Sherman were still largely long sleeved in plain or striped oxford weave?
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