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nice little story about Slade MoM

the other name that was used to refer to skinheads in 60s was spy kids, taken from them being called "spikeheads" but heard and interpreted wrongly as "spy kids"

Yeah I remember "spy kids" - we used to laugh about that, some journo mis-hearing "spike-heads".

I also remember one music paper (it would either have been "Sounds" or "NME") in 1967 had an article about late mods, and there was a cartoon of a short-haired guy in a parkah with an LP under his arm "Club Ska 67". When they ran an article about skinheads in 1968 or '69 they used the same cartoon.
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Just found this thread on another forum - contains some interesting text. You probably know about it:
http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/f...5-The-Skinhead
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John "Brideshead" is a good guy, knows his shit.
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I just wanted to share this. My favourite late-60s music is the short-lived "Rock Steady" - the one drop rhythm and the unsophisticated recording studio sound - totally laid back. Goes with the clothes!

Groove to The Three Tops' It's Raining.

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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post
I just wanted to share this. My favourite late-60s music is the short-lived "Rock Steady" - the one drop rhythm and the unsophisticated recording studio sound - totally laid back. Goes with the clothes!

Groove to The Three Tops' It's Raining.


my fave too. (as you may have guessed)
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I have forgotten to mention the smell of 1969. No one would go stepping out unless soaked in Brut aftershave by Faberge!

"You splash it all over you!"

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It had nothing to do with reaction to the hippies. The later mods' hair was quite short before the hippie movement took hold in the UK, and the term "skinhead" was first used as an insult against hard mods in 1967/1968. And yes, the mods' short hairstyle was influenced to some extent by black American soul and Tamla artists, along with their sharp suits.

Artists such as Otis Redding...


... The Four Tops...


... and The Impressions...


... were influential. Check out the guy on the right in the dark jacket in that last picture - he even has a razored-in parting, which became de rigeur for skinheads.

M-o-M

I don't think I've seen any skinheads with a razored-in parting nowadays but that's no surprise since I rarely see any with a set of hair. I see Originals were Always dressed up which is a big difference to today's skinheads. Was there ever times where you guys "dressed down"? Like did you Originals wear sneakers at times or plain shirts or anything else that wasn't documented as skinhead wear or were you guys always dressed up?
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Was there ever times where you guys "dressed down"?

Well, maybe in bed when we wore pyjamas!


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Like did you Originals wear sneakers at times or plain shirts or anything else that wasn't documented as skinhead wear or were you guys always dressed up?

Nothing like that, as far as I remember. When you were visible you dressed in the style and that was that. I guess that was a carry-through from mod if nothing else was.
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... and The Impressions...


... were influential. Check out the guy on the right in the dark jacket in that last picture - he even has a razored-in parting, which became de rigeur for skinheads.

M-o-M

Now this has always interested me, whenever I actually see photos of skins from 69' they always have that parting. How long does your hair have to be for this to look proper? I normally cut my hair to a #3 and let it get to about a #5 before cropping again and I can't imagine it looking good even when it's at the #5.

And on a side note, why the hell would skins wear brut?? It smells like my great-grandpa!...I guess I don't have much room to talk when I dress like him... Also, he says I dress of poverty, the way they did in the depression (commenting on my suspenders/braces and turned up jeans). I joke with him and tell him that it's just "working class". It's light-hearted though, not insults
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Now this has always interested me, whenever I actually see photos of skins from 69' they always have that parting. How long does your hair have to be for this to look proper? I normally cut my hair to a #3 and let it get to about a #5 before cropping again and I can't imagine it looking good even when it's at the #5.
A few posts ago there was a link to the BBC "Man Alive" programme about skinheads in 1969. One scene features a young guy at the barber's shop getting a No.2 crop and asking for a razored-in parting. This was about the shortest one asked for, and I think the boy could get away with it because his hair was fairly thick and fairly dark. (okay, these days I ask for a No.1, but that's because I'm sixty and half-bald, much like Patrick Stewart, not because I'm harking back to my skinhead days). In fact, as I have said before, the term "skinhead" was originally a term of abuse leveled at hard mods/totters - it certainly was in 1968 - and haircuts were simply short, same length all over, not necessarily scalped. If you look at some of my old photos you'll find that.
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And on a side note, why the hell would skins wear brut??
It was just the fashion. In those days it was worn by young men, and that was that.
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my great-grandpa...says I dress of poverty, the way they did in the depression ...
Uh huh? Has he ever watched Grapes of Wrath or Of Mice and Men? I can just see Tom Joad or Lennie in a Ben Sherman, a mohair suit, and polished brogues - as if! Seriously, that's a generational thing. I used to get similar stuff from my parents, we all did. Apparently I dressed in "a uniform" - no, it was a fashion. We got: "You're not going out dressed like that?" "You're not coming out with us in jeans!" "You and 'Cockney Bob' look like you went to the same Borstal!" [However, my dad did once gently tell my mum to stop criticising me. He said that he could remember how, in the thirties, he and his friends went out dressed in "plus-fours", one of them had a blue sweater and blue socks, another a red sweater and red socks, another a yellow sweater and yellow socks...] Let's face it, this generation thing just happens. My daughter is 17. At 14 she was a Goth, and actually she looked great. My wife and I have always let her get on with it, except for once when she wanted to dress in a combination of pink and day-glo green, and we told her people would look at her for the wrong reasons. We reckon we have been pretty tolerant. Okay I am drifting off-topic here...
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I hate that skinheads of today have absolutely no sense for style... at least here in our country. And what's worse, when you dress in traditional smart style they look at you as if you were a UFO. I often ask myself "Why are they skinheads when they hate skinhead fashion?". They wear cheap unfashionable t-shirts of poor quality only beause it has LONSDALE label over all chest, scalped haircuts etc. I don't really understand it.

There is a website which talks about that "skinhead is not a nazi, because of Jamaica blah blah blah... skinhead and nazi fashion is different, because skinheads dress smart" and then they put there an image "this is skinhead style" - http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7...byskinette.jpg
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post
I have forgotten to mention the smell of 1969. No one would go stepping out unless soaked in Brut aftershave by Faberge!

"You splash it all over you!"



my grandpa did this until he died lol You can never mistake the smell of Brut!

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I hate that skinheads of today have absolutely no sense for style... at least here in our country. And what's worse, when you dress in traditional smart style they look at you as if you were a UFO. I often ask myself "Why are they skinheads when they hate skinhead fashion?". They wear cheap unfashionable t-shirts of poor quality only beause it has LONSDALE label over all chest, scalped haircuts etc. I don't really understand it.

There is a website which talks about that "skinhead is not a nazi, because of Jamaica blah blah blah... skinhead and nazi fashion is different, because skinheads dress smart" and then they put there an image "this is skinhead style" - http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7...byskinette.jpg

lol that looks like shit, i agree with you though. I think it's more that they're not so much concerned about quality so long as they're perceived as being a skin, so they'll have the hot topic braces that stretch out after a dozen wears lol.
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Brut...haha I actually wore the stuff for about a year in 1987. just one of those thing you hear about and copy

Treasure Isle....great label!

that guy in the photo needs to sort himself out
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Originally Posted by Big Muscle View Post
I hate that skinheads of today have absolutely no sense for style... at least here in our country. And what's worse, when you dress in traditional smart style they look at you as if you were a UFO. I often ask myself "Why are they skinheads when they hate skinhead fashion?". They wear cheap unfashionable t-shirts of poor quality only beause it has LONSDALE label over all chest, scalped haircuts etc. I don't really understand it.

There is a website which talks about that "skinhead is not a nazi, because of Jamaica blah blah blah... skinhead and nazi fashion is different, because skinheads dress smart" and then they put there an image "this is skinhead style" - http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7...byskinette.jpg

Looks like a chav with some money in his pocket. Tired of the black tshirt and boots look they sold from the american hardcore scene. It's not the mail order suspenders that make a skinhead. It's the music, it's getting a job at 16, and it's the unity of some good friends.
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Looks like a chav with some money in his pocket. Tired of the black tshirt and boots look they sold from the american hardcore scene. It's not the mail order suspenders that make a skinhead. It's the music, it's getting a job at 16, and it's the unity of some good friends.

Ideally, yes. However the good job at 16 doesn't seem so good at 26, and all those friends fence walked, got out of the scene, or became burnouts. I'm with you on the values though.
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