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Originally Posted by albion
Something like this, perhaps?
although her fringe seems to have
been cut slightly wonky.


Actually that's not far off. My ex June had hair almost exactly like that in '69.
 

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sorry to go off subject all, but does any of you originals remember anybody wearing collar less grandad shirts ? I've read about them somewhere and saw a chap recently in a fitted one, cuffs back, worn with a sleeveless jumper and it looked great. I'm thinking of 1920's type shirt - the ones where you could take the collar off if you know what I mean, i know the hippies wore nehru type shirts, Macca always seemed to have had one on. But is this another local late 70's revival thing? Or did you originals really want to look like Albert Steptoe and yer actual Alf Garnett ?
And no, I'm not taking the piss...

 

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Originally Posted by bunty
sorry to go off subject all, but does any of you originals remember anybody wearing collar less grandad shirts ? I've read about them somewhere and saw a chap recently in a fitted one, cuffs back, worn with a sleeveless jumper and it looked great. I'm thinking of 1920's type shirt - the ones where you could take the collar off if you know what I mean, i know the hippies wore nehru type shirts, Macca always seemed to have had one on. But is this another local late 70's revival thing? Or did you originals really want to look like Albert Steptoe and yer actual Alf Garnett ?
And no, I'm not taking the piss...


Funnily enough there was one guy around the New Cross area who had the nickname of 'Steptoe', because of a slight facial resemblance to Wilfred Bramble!

The weren't worn by late mods/totters/skinheads. I saw one totter in summer 68 wearing levis, braces, and a 'grandad vest' (three-button t-shirt) - that was in Bromley, Kent - but that was the nearest.
 

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Thanks, we love that steptoe thing, don't we MOM!

'You Bleeder!'
 

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Originally Posted by bunty
Thanks, we love that steptoe thing, don't we MOM!

'You Bleeder!'


You dirty old man!
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Harold Steptoe:" You are a dyed-in-the-wool, fascist, reactionary, squalid little, 'know your place', 'don't rise above yourself', 'don't get out of your hole' - complacent little turd."
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Originally Posted by albion
Harold Steptoe:" You are a dyed-in-the-wool, fascist, reactionary, squalid little, 'know your place', 'don't rise above yourself', 'don't get out of your hole' - complacent little turd."
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Albert: "Neeeeaaahhhhhhh...."
 

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Originally Posted by Little Queenie
I suppose it depended on where you came from and the socio-economic background you were born into.

Was Harlesdon where you lived then? I understand it had quite a large West Indian population, did that influence you as regards fashion and music? From what I can gather, Reggae was never as popular in the North.


Not really. Certainly not in NW London. You could always get a job and make a few bob - even at school. Some things were expensive. An LP would cost me a days wages as a Saturday boy in Woolworths but you could get clothes made for you relatively cheaply even if you were still at school.

I know Curzon Crescent from going to see cousins living next to Roundwood Park. We had a football nicked and chased the culprits back to there. I know Kilburn because of the Irish connections.

It might depend on what you mean by a skinhead. If you mean number one crop, boots and looking for aggro then I am sure you could find it. If it was style and music you were mostly OK.
 

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Kingstonian;4114377 said:
Not really. Certainly not in NW London. You could always get a job and make a few bob - even at school. Some things were expensive. An LP would cost me a days wages as a Saturday boy in Woolworths but you could get clothes made for you relatively cheaply even if you were still at school.

I know Curzon Crescent from going to see cousins living next to Roundwood Park. We had a football nicked and chased the culprits back to there. I know Kilburn because of the Irish connections.

It might depend on what you mean by a skinhead. If you mean number one crop, boots and looking for aggro then I am sure you could find it. If it was style and music you were mostly OK.[/QUOTE

So what do you know about Kilburn during the late 60s was you there ?
 

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So what do you know about Kilburn during the late 60s was you there ?
I was in the London Borough of Brent at that time. Previously lived in Paddington, off the Harrow Road. The Catholic school system meant that the catchment area went from inner London right out to Watford. From your name and the description of your school, you would not seem to have been part of that. Our only common ground is your statement that people tended not to go up West for a night out. Top Rank Watford, Burton's Uxbridge, Oldfield Greenford, Birds Nest Harrow etc. Kilburn, Cricklewood and nearby I would be at Irish places like The Galtymore; but I doubt you would have been inside those places in the 1960s.
 

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Greetings everyone. I'm a new member and a Dr. Martens fan. Only yesterday I had a (hopefully) great bargain on what seems a truly vintage Solovair/DM pair of boots in an excellent unworn condition. Does anyone have any idea as to how old they might be? I can't find any info on this particular style marked as 983T 7336. Do you think this is a worthy purchase?
 

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Originally Posted by Kingstonian
I was in the London Borough of Brent at that time. Previously lived in Paddington, off the Harrow Road. The Catholic school system meant that the catchment area went from inner London right out to Watford. From your name and the description of your school, you would not seem to have been part of that. Our only common ground is your statement that people tended not to go up West for a night out. Top Rank Watford, Burton's Uxbridge, Oldfield Greenford, Birds Nest Harrow etc. Kilburn, Cricklewood and nearby I would be at Irish places like The Galtymore; but I doubt you would have been inside those places in the 1960s.
I came off the Carlton House estate West Kilburn, I went to school at Alyestone High Queens park, Most of my mates had Irish backgrounds, and went to School at St Georges Maid Vale, also Cardinal Hensley..Harlesden, many Kilburn Skinhead Girls went to the Convent of Jesus and Mary also in Harlesden, I did get in the Galtymore Crickelwood in the early 70s. My ex Wife who i dated as a Skinhead girl came from Shirland road, which is off the Harrow road Paddington, I was born in St Marys Hostpital Harrow road Paddington, I still live in Central London. Someone on this site has pointed out to me that you have been taking the piss out of us Original skinheads on another web site. that we lack education. Skinheads came from Working class.. off the Estates of inner London, I left school in 69 with not one exam result, my mates was the same. I like MoM and others put stuff on here in the hope its of interest to others , if you have a problem with this dont read the ****.
 

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Originally Posted by Garik
Greetings everyone. I'm a new member and a Dr. Martens fan. Only yesterday I had a (hopefully) great bargain on what seems a truly vintage Solovair/DM pair of boots in an excellent unworn condition. Does anyone have any idea as to how old they might be? I can't find any info on this particular style marked as 983T 7336. Do you think this is a worthy purchase?
those look brand new, which is amazing for being vintage. Do they fit you or did you get it for a "collection"? I dont believe keeping things new for sake of it, but those I almost might just for the history of them. But couldnt tell you much about them other than they appear to be the original brown color that DMs came in and doesnt have the yellow welt stitch (good). Hopefully someone else that was around at the time might know more about them specifically.
Originally Posted by Lasttye
Someone on this site has pointed out to me that you have been taking the piss out of us Original skinheads on another web site. that we lack education. Skinheads came from Working class.. off the Estates of inner London, I left school in 69 with not one exam result, my mates was the same. I like MoM and others put stuff on here in the hope its of interest to others , if you have a problem with this dont read the ****.
that's the thing about all these forums...when you post on one, you may as well be posting on several since there are so many lurkers that read all the various forae but never make their presence known. With Kingstonian presenting his PoV here a more well rounded picture of late 60s London could be painted. and if there are disagreements about how things were, I think that can only help clarify it all in the end since everyone's experiences differ even at the same time and place.
 

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Originally Posted by bunty
sorry to go off subject all, but does any of you originals remember anybody wearing collar less grandad shirts ? I've read about them somewhere and saw a chap recently in a fitted one, cuffs back, worn with a sleeveless jumper and it looked great. I'm thinking of 1920's type shirt - the ones where you could take the collar off if you know what I mean, i know the hippies wore nehru type shirts, Macca always seemed to have had one on. But is this another local late 70's revival thing? Or did you originals really want to look like Albert Steptoe and yer actual Alf Garnett ?
And no, I'm not taking the piss...


Hello Bunty,

Yes, grandad shirts were worn by Skinheads up here (North East of England) and at least down as far as Merseyside / Manchester area, my boyfriend reckons. Grandad vests were worn as well. They were both part of the early look '67 - '68.
 

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Originally Posted by Little Queenie
Hello Bunty,

Yes, grandad shirts were worn by Skinheads up here (North East of England) and at least down as far as Merseyside / Manchester area, my boyfriend reckons. Grandad vests were worn as well. They were both part of the early look '67 - '68.


Blimey - that's a totally new one one me! Not something I ever saw.
 

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