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The girl on the left is the mum of a very lovely lady I know on Facebook...

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And this is Bryan Webb. A very encouraging guy and loved to talk about his suedehead/bootboy days...

 

This is one such memory of his. Unfortunately he's not with us anymore but it was an honor to "virtually" meet him.

 

“I lived in West London and was lucky enough to be surrounded by Reggae music and black culture – I bought as many 7″ singles as I could with my pocket money and Saturday job wages! I shopped in Shepherds Bush Market and Harlesden for the latest Trojan and Pama releases – the Trojan charts were my bible and tried to listen to every new release each week. I would spend hours in the record shops (my favorite being Muzik City and Websters in Shepherds Bush)”

“I managed to persuade my parents to buy me a Ben Sherman shirt for school and some Frank Wright black tasselled loafers… And never looked back! My sta-press and tonic trousers came next – after my prized possession of Dr. Martens boots! We got into lots of scraps and mischief – nothing horrific and fairly harmless really. My main passion was music and clothes.”

“I ‘caught the fashion’ of the suedehead at that time and really loved the style – my Crombie overcoat was red lined and had the red silk hankie with a gold pocket stud to keep it in place. My older brother was one of the original Mods from the very early 1960s and I inherited the most amazing sheepskin coat about 1971 – it got ripped in fights, stolen once and recovered after a chase and scrap! I slept out on a beach in it and lived in it day in and out – it still always looked good. I was known for my sheepskin coat! It must have been very expensive as my brother spent all his money on fashionable clothes and buying that coat in 1963 must have cost him a fortune.”

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Originally Posted by Donkey Jacket View Post

Heres an original pic, notice the plastic bit.




Its the reason i like wearing my relco braces more pretty much.

I noticed that the ebay Japanese braces seemed to cross over at the back (rather than coming together then parting in the 'plastic bit' like on these ones) which looked a bit odd to me. Not saying they are 'wrong', just pretty sure I never saw braces work like that before.
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I noticed that the ebay Japanese braces seemed to cross over at the back (rather than coming together then parting in the 'plastic bit' like on these ones) which looked a bit odd to me. Not saying they are 'wrong', just pretty sure I never saw braces work like that before.

 

From my experience that is what most of the modern ''skinhead'' braces are designed like.

 

 

Notice the braces on the right, a leather bit instead of a plastic bit.

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Originally Posted by Sean Carlson View Post
 

 

Right. We always related having the plastic bit to be the proper look. Lots of detail in the fashion.

 

The braces worn by the guy on the right are too wide for my liking - you get quite a bit of braces variety in pictures of originals, so I wouldn't take them as gospel. As for 'plastic bit consistency', you also get pics like this:

 

 

You're free to continue buying from Relco if the plastic bit means something to you, of course. I'd rather have braces that do what they're supposed to and don't let me down after a couple of weeks.

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Originally Posted by covskin View Post


I noticed that the ebay Japanese braces seemed to cross over at the back (rather than coming together then parting in the 'plastic bit' like on these ones) which looked a bit odd to me. Not saying they are 'wrong', just pretty sure I never saw braces work like that before.

 

Jump the Gun braces are exactly the same:

http://www.jumpthegun.co.uk/product/Skinny_Braces

 

In fact, I strongly suspect Jump the Gun get theirs from Japan and sell them on at a small profit. They seem identical, except my JtG braces lasted a couple of months before the seam broke and had to be sewn, while my Japanese ones are still in full working order half a year later. This might just be coincidence.


Edited by Bela Kun - 8/21/16 at 3:26am
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Originally Posted by Donkey Jacket View Post

From my experience that is what most of the modern ''skinhead'' braces are designed like.




Notice the braces on the right, a leather bit instead of a plastic bit.

The braces I started off with from my dad were clip on with plastic fittings like above left but I think his older button on pair were actually Y shaped at the back with a triangle of leather joining everything together. Progress of a sort, you could make the back into an X or a Y! And the perennial question, where to clip them on.
Edited by covskin - 8/21/16 at 6:10am
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Originally Posted by covskin View Post


The braces I started off with from my dad were clip on with plastic fittings like above left but I think his older button on pair were actually Y shaped at the back with a triangle of leather joining everything together. Progress of a sort, you could make the back into an X or a Y! And the perennial question, where to clip them on.

 

 

into an x style of course, it looks wrong if you have the back bits too close together.

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And the perennial question, where to clip them on.

 

In pictures from the 80s onwards, they're clipped very close together at the back (y style), which is how they're still worn today, incl. by most skins of the 'trad' variety. You don't get any of that in 1968-70 pictures, though. Like the obligatory 0.5 inch turn-up, it seems to have become a code for "I'm in the know / I'm not a complete shlub" only in the 80s.

 

Tbh I prefer the 0.5 turnup, authentic or not, and I'm agnostic/indifferent on Y vs X clipping.

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Originally Posted by Bela Kun View Post
 

 

In pictures from the 80s onwards, they're clipped very close together at the back, which is how they're still worn today by skins, incl. those of the 'trad' variety. You don't get any of that in 1968-70 pictures, though. Like the obligatory 0.5 turn-up, it seems to have become a code for "I'm in the know / I'm not a complete shlub" only in the 80s.

 

 

Just looks lazy to me, and not ''in the know''. i dont get the half inch turnup thing too seeing as it wasn't the same in every place, but that discussion has been done to death.

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DJ... Northern skins - I haven't seen it before - nice one. (I never looked that scruffy, tho'.) shog[1].gif

FTR: I often wear braces - belts slip if you are a bit rotund shog[1].gif - and mine are all just one clip at the back.

That said, when I'm driving, I tend to slip them off so as not to look as if I'm some old yuppie - sad old bassa, I suppose. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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Originally Posted by Sean Carlson View Post

And this is Bryan Webb. A very encouraging guy and loved to talk about his suedehead/bootboy days...




This is one such memory of his. Unfortunately he's not with us anymore but it was an honor to "virtually" meet him.


 

“I lived in West London and was lucky enough to be surrounded by Reggae music and black culture – I bought as many 7″ singles as I could with my pocket money and Saturday job wages! I shopped in Shepherds Bush Market and Harlesden for the latest Trojan and Pama releases – the Trojan charts were my bible and tried to listen to every new release each week. I would spend hours in the record shops (my favorite being Muzik City and Websters in Shepherds Bush)”




“I managed to persuade my parents to buy me a Ben Sherman shirt for school and some Frank Wright black tasselled loafers… And never looked back! My sta-press and tonic trousers came next – after my prized possession of Dr. Martens boots! We got into lots of scraps and mischief – nothing horrific and fairly harmless really. My main passion was music and clothes.”



“I ‘caught the fashion’ of the suedehead at that time and really loved the style – my Crombie overcoat was red lined and had the red silk hankie with a gold pocket stud to keep it in place. My older brother was one of the original Mods from the very early 1960s and I inherited the most amazing sheepskin coat about 1971 – it got ripped in fights, stolen once and recovered after a chase and scrap! I slept out on a beach in it and lived in it day in and out – it still always looked good. I was known for my sheepskin coat! It must have been very expensive as my brother spent all his money on fashionable clothes and buying that coat in 1963 must have cost him a fortune.”




I had a haircut - briefly - similar to this in a transition stage. satisfied.gif
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

DJ... Northern skins - I haven't seen it before - nice one. (I never looked that scruffy, tho'.) shog[1].gif
 

 

That is actually how im dressing atm, complete with levis jean patch on trucker and buttoned up at the top only, beret too. im not really bothered if people think im scruffy so im happy lol.

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Originally Posted by Bela Kun View Post
 

 

In pictures from the 80s onwards, they're clipped very close together at the back (y style), which is how they're still worn today, incl. by most skins of the 'trad' variety. You don't get any of that in 1968-70 pictures, though. Like the obligatory 0.5 inch turn-up, it seems to have become a code for "I'm in the know / I'm not a complete shlub" only in the 80s.

 

Tbh I prefer the 0.5 turnup, authentic or not, and I'm agnostic/indifferent on Y vs X clipping.

 

Bela,

 

Too true on placement of braces. In the 80s in the States we did our best but it was hard to get specific information. We all had a passion for the fashion and wanted to do it properly. Obviously we didn't have the Internet and there was only a couple of books - Nick Knights and Gerry Johnsons' Story of Oi.

 

So, now you have me curious what is the proper turn ups?

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Originally Posted by Sean Carlson View Post
 

 

Bela,

 

Too true on placement of braces. In the 80s in the States we did our best but it was hard to get specific information. We all had a passion for the fashion and wanted to do it properly. Obviously we didn't have the Internet and there was only a couple of books - Nick Knights and Gerry Johnsons' Story of Oi.

 

So, now you have me curious what is the proper turn ups?

It depends what time era you are thinking of, depending on where you were etc, from what ive read it wasn't as regimented as people seem to think, some had big turnups, some had smaller, some had none etc.

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