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Welcome Sean.

 

Well, you have potentially opened up a can of worms here as the time/place continuum means that there will be lots of different views on this depending on  where people are from. I'm going to re-post some earlier submissions. The first I wrote about 14 years ago about how we used the terminology at the time. The second shows the development of skinhead through to boot boy. However, this is only my interpretation of it. What I regard as Suedehead others see as late skinhead, others still would describe it as Smoothie. I see the time-line as Skinhead-Suedehead-Smoothie-Bootboy, though personally I was never a Smoothie, but grew my hair from suedehead straight to bootboy (it was more of a football terrace thing...)

 

Thank you! As noted I've been into it since 86. In the late 80s I worked at a local pub - I'm a Yank and lived in California. A lot of the local Brits were originals. I knew a mod from 63, a couple of suedeheads, early 70s bootboys, and soulies. I learned a lot and recently I've been really into finding more information about the fashion and everything from the 60s to early 70s. I've learned how the fashion got harder during the mid 60s within mods with the ivy league cut and then others having shorter hair. While the older kids kept the ivy league look evolved into "suedehead" and the younger kids became skinheads in 69 after the free hippie gigs. We now have two different age brackets and the older kids coming into their late teens and having responsibilities and social expectations like being married in their early 20s. It seems to me that age, expectations, and responsibilities drove the fashion also. Skinheads being barred from pubs etc. while suedes not looking as menacing and mature. Smoothies being the last incarnation of the older kids again with still looking sharp but going on the new fashion trend of long hair and glam. The younger kids following suit through suedehead and then bootboys being more of the younger hooligans of smoothies.

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Hi guys, I was wondering if any of you knew of somewhere online that I could get a good pair of braces? I've tried Warrior and Relco brand braces. Though the clasps seem to start wearing out quickly and slide off my jeans every so often.

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Originally Posted by PittsburghSkin View Post
 

Hi guys, I was wondering if any of you knew of somewhere online that I could get a good pair of braces? I've tried Warrior and Relco brand braces. Though the clasps seem to start wearing out quickly and slide off my jeans every so often.

 

I was going to suggest Relco. That's a disappointment that the clasps slip off. I've been looking at getting a pair of them.

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The Relcos are pretty good quality, it's just in my case the clasps slip.

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Originally Posted by Botolph View Post

I do love the Smedley Isis polo:  Nice and subtle and a bit more under-the-radar than, say, a Fred Perry...that being said I wear
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Most of the jumpers/sweaters/cardies I remember wearing in the late 70s/early 80s were acrylic/Orlon or other manmade wool fabrics. Fred Perry, Slazenger, Cardin and Izod/Lacoste were all acrylic if I recall correctly. The only wool jumpers about were yer Argyll golf jobs (Pringle/Lyle etc) There were plain ones, but they were still too 'Casual', too pricey and too Corbett for my liking.
FP's more as they're less "delicate"    Maybe they'll be re-branding that particular Smedley shirt now that the moniker(Isis) has been co-opted?  

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Most of the jumpers/sweaters/cardies I remember wearing in the late 70s/early 80s were acrylic/Orlon or other manmade wool fabrics. Fred Perry, Slazenger, Cardin and Izod/Lacoste were all acrylic if I recall correctly. The only wool jumpers about were yer Argyll golf jobs (Pringle/Lyle etc) There were plain ones, but they were still too 'Casual', too pricey and too Corbett for my liking.
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And the woollen jumpers that were around were lambs wool and roughly an eighth of an inch thick.
No Merinos with the durability of butterfly wings back then.
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We used to get our Jungle Greens from Army Surplus store 'Sams' in Woolwich SE London.  I can still to this day remember the musty smell and the stacks of clobber piled up to the ceiling 

I seem to remember that we got ours from a branch of Millets in Lewisham.
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Originally Posted by PittsburghSkin View Post
 

Hi guys, I was wondering if any of you knew of somewhere online that I could get a good pair of braces? I've tried Warrior and Relco brand braces. Though the clasps seem to start wearing out quickly and slide off my jeans every so often.

Warrior and Relco braces are utter shite, as is the pricier variety from Merc. They will wear out in no time and snap off your trousers just as you're about to make a move on that cute skinhead girl on the dancefloor. 

 

After thorough research, I found that these are the only decent quality braces out there:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360197025787?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&var=630003762585&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT 

 

They'll take a couple of weeks to arrive from Japan, but cheaper and better quality than from all the usual outlets. Of course, braces don't last forever, but these are the best I found.


Edited by Bela Kun - 8/19/16 at 3:20am
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Originally Posted by Botolph View Post


Hi SoCal,

  They have a pretty high rise, like 11.5-12", proper pants, not the effeminate low-rise garbage that most companies cut these days.  They seem to be true to the era they emulate except they're a TINY bit narrower.  Not skinny in any way, but narrower than the originals.  Pretty good value either way.  Got a pair at a shop here in Boston for under $15(I forget exactly how much).  
Thanks Botolph, will scoop up a pair after all then. I despise the low-rise anti-fit nonsense that has been going on for the last few years.
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Originally Posted by Bela Kun View Post

Warrior and Relco braces are utter shite, as is the pricier variety from Merc. They will wear out in no time and snap off your trousers just as you're about to make a move on that cute skinhead girl on the dancefloor. 

After thorough research, I found that these are the only decent quality braces out there:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360197025787?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&var=630003762585&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT 

They'll take a couple of weeks to arrive from Japan, but cheaper and better quality than from all the usual outlets. Of course, braces don't last forever, but these are the best I found.
Beat me to it Bela Kun, the best braces I've found in my experience as well. As you stated earlier, takes a couple weeks to arrive but it is worth it. I've had 3 pairs for about 3 years or so and they're still going strong.
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Originally Posted by Bela Kun View Post
 

Warrior and Relco braces are utter shite, as is the pricier variety from Merc. They will wear out in no time and snap off your trousers just as you're about to make a move on that cute skinhead girl on the dancefloor. 

 

After thorough research, I found that these are the only decent quality braces out there:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360197025787?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&var=630003762585&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT 

 

They'll take a couple of weeks to arrive from Japan, but cheaper and better quality than from all the usual outlets. Of course, braces don't last forever, but these are the best I found.

 

Bela,

 

What about any decent braces with the plastic cross piece in the back?

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As I was reading back through the thread with great pictures and memories I wanted to share a picture of us from 92. I grew up in California and was brought up on reggae by my dad. From 83 to 85 I was a punk when I was introduced to Oi! (stop rolling your eyes). In 86 I transitioned into the local Trojan scene and we were as sussed as you can get in the States - the Santa Cruz Centurians. Anyway, here's that picture of some of us. I'm in the front in the Crombie.

 

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Originally Posted by Bela Kun View Post
 

Since we're talking 80s jumpers: I've been wondering for a long time what brand the lad on the right is wearing. Looks a bit like a Slazenger logo, but not quite. Covskin reckons it's probably a generic jumper from the market, no particular brand - maybe someone recognises it?

 

This is Margate bank holiday 1981, so technically doesn't belong here - I really like the jumper, though.

 

 The Nazi SS on the flag is sadly very much of that era .. boneheads 

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Hey Sean, do you know Dannyboy Smith?
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Originally Posted by Sean Carlson View Post

As I was reading back through the thread with great pictures and memories I wanted to share a picture of us from 92. I grew up in California and was brought up on reggae by my dad. From 83 to 85 I was a punk when I was introduced to Oi! (stop rolling your eyes). In 86 I transitioned into the local Trojan scene and we were as sussed as you can get in the States - the Santa Cruz Centurians. Anyway, here's that picture of some of us. I'm in the front in the Crombie.


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Originally Posted by flyfronted View Post
 
I'm no friend of boneheads, but to be honest, it didn't necessarily mean more than the SS runes in the Kiss logo - or the swastika on Sid Vicious's t shirt, for that matter. I.e. dumb but meaningless. These boys don't look particularly boneheadish either.
 
Sean: I've no idea - it's news to me that someone would attribute any importance to the plastic bits?
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i had a similar jumper late seventies early eighties the logo was I think a lion and I got mine off Newton Heath market
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