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Botolph, how are the fit on these jungle greens? And do they sit low or high on the waist? Thinking of picking up a pair. Thanks in advance.


Hi SoCal,

 

  They have a pretty high rise, like 11.5-12", proper pants, not the effeminate low-rise garbage that most companies cut these days.  They seem to be true to the era they emulate except they're a TINY bit narrower.  Not skinny in any way, but narrower than the originals.  Pretty good value either way.  Got a pair at a shop here in Boston for under $15(I forget exactly how much).  

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Fred Perry:
Freds were the tennis shirt of choice where I was. If anything, I saw more mods wearing alternative brands (usually entirely without logos) than skinheads.

'The':
Just going back to 'mob' names, such as 'The Kilburn'. I've remembered an incident from 1969.

There was a whole bunch of us in the bowling alley cafe in Lewisham one day, which one of the two places we would all regularly meet (the other being the Savoy Rooms, of course). We were discussing area-named mobs.

"Who are we?" asked someone. There was a pause as we looked at each other.

"We're the Lewisham," I suggested.

"No we're not!" said a couple of blokes, with surprised looks on their faces.

After that, no one made any other suggestions, and from that day on we were still a large group of kids who regularly met up and went round together, but we were never 'The' anything.
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For what it's worth, in Martin Kings account of the Chelsea mob that encountered Spurs in November 67- late mod, nascent skin- he remarked that the uniform was Jungle Greens and Fred Perry's.
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he remarked that the uniform was Jungle Greens and Fred Perry's.

 

Sounds like a great combo for the summer, actually - white or navy or pale yellow FP, I'd say.

 

Ed Vaughan: I've got to admit I couldn't resist getting a 3-pack of Slazinger polos in various colours for 15 quid as they looked alright folded. However, once I had unwrapped them and realised how baggy and shapeless they were (what did I expect, really?), there was no way I was ever going to wear one except on hungover days at home. Maybe they had a slimmer cut back in the day?

 

That said, I do like some of their v neck jumpers.

 

No recollections of original skinheads wearing John Smedleys, then? And what type tennis shirt might the kid on the far left in the 'Skinheads and Cherry Reds' picture be wearing?


Edited by Bela Kun - 8/17/16 at 3:15am
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In East London, Fred Perry's had been extremely popular with mods and therefore weren't anything "new", this might account for them not being  as desirable as other essential items amongst us younger skinheads.

 

On the subject of Jungle Greens,which were very popular amongst the early skinheads - there were all kinds of Amy Surplus/Work Clothes type shops scattered across East London and that's where most people got them.

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Originally Posted by Bela Kun View Post
 

 

Sounds like a great combo for the summer, actually - white or navy or pale yellow FP, I'd say.

 

Ed Vaughan: I've got to admit I couldn't resist getting a 3-pack of Slazinger polos in various colours for 15 quid as they looked alright folded. However, once I had unwrapped them and realised how baggy and shapeless they were (what did I expect, really?), there was no way I was ever going to wear one except on hungover days at home. Maybe they had a slimmer cut back in the day?

 

That said, I do like some of their v neck jumpers.

 

No recollections of original skinheads wearing John Smedleys, then? And what type tennis shirt might the kid on the far left in the 'Skinheads and Cherry Reds' picture be wearing?


The actual Slazenger polos (the kind you find at Sports Direct) are crap indeed, like most of contemporary Slazenger stuff. There are interesting limited editions sometimes, like a recent lambswool Vneck (think Covskin and Botolph have it), but expensive. the best Slazenger items i've got are… Tracksuit pants i found 3 or 5 years ago at Sports Direct. The logo is slim and the material is OK, but well they are for doing sports...

 

Speaking of the picture, i'm not an expert, but i'm quite sure the polo the lad on the left is wearing is not a Smedley. The traditional Smedley collar is much longer (they do smaller ones now, but it's quite recent) and it looks like a piqué shirt, not the case of in the time Smedleys either (i think they are doing some piqué too now, with a terrible logo. Apart the Isis or Milo polos, i wouldn't recommend JS polo/tennis shirts.)

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On the subject of Jungle Greens,which were very popular amongst the early skinheads - there were all kinds of Amy Surplus/Work Clothes type shops scattered across East London and that's where most people got them.

We used to get our Jungle Greens from Army Surplus store 'Sams' in Woolwich SE London.  I can still to this day remember the musty smell and the stacks of clobber piled up to the ceiling 

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The actual Slazenger polos (the kind you find at Sports Direct) are crap indeed, like most of contemporary Slazenger stuff. There are interesting limited editions sometimes, like a recent lambswool Vneck (think Covskin and Botolph have it), but expensive. the best Slazenger items i've got are… Tracksuit pants i found 3 or 5 years ago at Sports Direct. The logo is slim and the material is OK, but well they are for doing sports...

 

Speaking of the picture, i'm not an expert, but i'm quite sure the polo the lad on the left is wearing is not a Smedley. The traditional Smedley collar is much longer (they do smaller ones now, but it's quite recent) and it looks like a piqué shirt, not the case of in the time Smedleys either (i think they are doing some piqué too now, with a terrible logo. Apart the Isis or Milo polos, i wouldn't recommend JS polo/tennis shirts.)

 

I do love the Smedley Isis polo:  Nice and subtle and a bit more under-the-radar than, say, a Fred Perry...that being said I wear FP's more as they're less "delicate"    Maybe they'll be re-branding that particular Smedley shirt now that the moniker(Isis) has been co-opted?  

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Your dead right with Smedleys being delicate.
There's stuff in the fridge with a longer shelf life than their Merino Jumpers
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We used to get our Jungle Greens from Army Surplus store 'Sams' in Woolwich SE London.  I can still to this day remember the musty smell and the stacks of clobber piled up to the ceiling 

 

Our mob bought our jungle greens from the Army and Navy store at the chequers, Dagenham . It also had the musty smell.

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I wore Fred Perrys all through the 60's. I have holiday photos of my dad, his mate, me aged about 11 and my brother aged nine all wearing FPs in about 1964. If you bought a Tennis shirt that is what you got. There wasn't a wide range of brands available. Original skinheads did wear them in our area. John Smedleys with the larger collar were worn by my older Mod cousins.

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I remember wearing Slazenger polos - bought from Hurleys in manchester Piccadilly.

Anyhoo... here are some reprinted articles from International Times from 1969-'73. (Their 'Yell' section.)


http://www.skinheadheaven.org.uk/index.php/cuttings

I've tried to find the originals - without success - but these are (IMHO) worth a look at. (CHECK OUT THE PDF FOR ORIGINAL ARTICLES, BTW.)

Big thanks to the website owner/ poster.bigstar[1].gif

I don't remember Slazenger polos in our area but in about 1970 as suedeheads we did wear their V necked jumpers. My first pair of real football boots were Slazenger before I graduated to Puma brand.

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I don't remember slazenger polos either but I remember the v necks we used to wear them a lot, yellow was a popular colour
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Slazenger v necks are still around but, like Clouseau said, a bit expensive. In merino though, a step up from the Slazenger v necks in the early 80s which I think were acrylic or something like that. Still that great and unmistakable drapey fit from the shoulders.
Edited by covskin - 8/17/16 at 2:14pm
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...might as well post this here - found in the loft, sticky label from my early 80s Fred Perry jumper



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