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post #23716 of 24907
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Originally Posted by ShortBackAndSides View Post

Pitchside advert for Sexy Rexy shops in Rotherham and Sheffield. They knew where to find the target audience for their goods.

Not far from where i live, i talk to a bloke who owns a corner shop where i live sometimes, and he says he used to buy levis or brutus sta prest from a shop nearby(he said levis were the most desirable but brutus would of been the second choice is levis were not availible) could well of been that shop.
post #23717 of 24907
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Originally Posted by Mr Knightley View Post

That 'London city gent' look was also popular earlier in the 60s - around 1963 / 64 in my area.  Bowlers, Crombies, a Tootal paisley scarf and brolly.

Original Birmingham Mod Gill Evans has often spoken about how her late husband Del and his mates used to dance with their brollies at clubs in the mid-60s.

Speaking of Gill, she just shared this 1963 picture on FB's Original Modernists (closed)  group of her wearing a twinset.  She also mentioned that she had just shortened a midi-length skirt to create the length you see here.  The picture of elegance!



Indeed. I worked with a lad in the late 7ts who was from London and he told me he wore a bowler hat and always carried his brolly to work . He would have been about 19 at the time and worked as a draughtsman in the early 6ts, so certainly not an actual city gent . It all went Pete Tong for him when he traded in his Lambo for a water-cooled Velocette (sic) . .
The good thing was , Jerry had never given up his love of good music and I loved his vast collection of R&B classics from back in the day . .
post #23718 of 24907
Sorry to go off topic, but non selvedge jeans in 69?
post #23719 of 24907
^ you've obviously got better eyesight than me! Lee have been non-selvedge since whenever, Wrangler I'm not sure about but they have the overlapped seam on the outside of the leg I think which will obscure that, Levi were selvedge up to early 80s.

The truth is selvedge actually didn't matter back then.
Edited by covskin - 7/6/16 at 5:54am
post #23720 of 24907
I only just noticed recently too, kinda wish i bought some cheap regular lee riders i saw in a charity shop now(would probs have the turnups tailored that big for some variety too) another pic without selvedge. Wranglers and lee again probs.
post #23721 of 24907
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The truth is selvedge actually didn't matter back then.

My own recollection is that the Look was the most important thing back then and the provenance or authenticity of the stuff we wore was not really a concern in the way it is today among iGents.

 

Later studies have attempted to attribute a certain knowledge to kids back in the day that, in truth, we didn't possess.

post #23722 of 24907
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Originally Posted by covskin View Post

^ you've obviously got better eyesight than me! Lee have been non-selvedge since whenever, Wrangler I'm not sure about but they have the overlapped seam on the outside of the leg I think which will obscure that, Levi were selvedge up to early 80s.

The truth is selvedge actually didn't matter back then.


Speaking of Lee ('Denim, from cowboys to catwalks a visual history of the world's most legendary fabric' by G.Marsh and P.Trynka) :

 

'The distinctive selvage edges of Lee jeans disappeared gradually during the 50s, early jeans boasted a double selvage, most 1950s jeans had selvage on merely one edge of the fabric; the selvage was completely gone by 1958.'

 

…Until Lee launched a heritage collection to compete with LVC.

 

Donkey Jacket, i've got several Lee Riders repros, with and without selvedge, one of my favorite (great fit and natural color fading) is a non selvedge japanese repro.

post #23723 of 24907
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Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post
 

 

 

…Until Lee launched a heritage collection to compete with LVC.

 

Donkey Jacket, i've got several Lee Riders repros, one of my favorite (great fit and color) is a non selvedge japanese repro.

 

I wonder if selvedge today says just about as much about a pair of jeans as working cuff buttons do about a suit.

 

I have a pair of H&M / L.O.G.G. dark indigo selvedge jeans that cost about £50.  Quality is just ok...Cut is crap.

 

My favourite jeans, that cost about double, are non-selvedge Nudie Straight Alf.

post #23724 of 24907
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Originally Posted by Mr Knightley View Post

My own recollection is that the Look was the most important thing back then and the provenance or authenticity of the stuff we wore was not really a concern in the way it is today among iGents.

Later studies have attempted to attribute a certain knowledge to kids back in the day that, in truth, we didn't possess.

Thats makes a lot of sense to me, as long as you get the look right that is the most important bit, and truth be told there was a lot of variation from area to area. I still prefer selvedge though, just looks more correct for some reason to me now.
post #23725 of 24907
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Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post


Speaking of Lee ('Denim, from cowboys to catwalks a visual history of the world's most legendary fabric' by G.Marsh and P.Trynka) :

'The distinctive selvage edges of Lee jeans disappeared gradually during the 50s, early jeans boasted a double selvage, most 1950s jeans had selvage on merely one edge of the fabric; the selvage was completely gone by 1958.'

…Until Lee launched a heritage collection to compete with LVC.

Donkey Jacket, i've got several Lee Riders repros, with and without selvedge, one of my favorite (great fit and natural color fading) is a non selvedge japanese repro.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-LEE-101-Rider-Jeans-Dry-Raw-Selvedge-Japan-Denim-Regular-13-75oz-IN-BOX-/321449188465?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368 i am considering buying these what bela messaged me on fb, and are meant to be higher waisted then even 501s, the way lee designates there jeans confuses me to be honest, prob the only reason why i never buy em.
post #23726 of 24907
^ Lee are not so tied to numbers as Levi are - making it harder to pin things down over time - but I would be fairly confident that the Lee 101 *is* the current manifestation of the 'Lee Rider' that gets mentioned here. I don't think Lee have ever had the wide product range that Levi has. Over time there is sometimes a 'slim' and occasionally a 'bootcut' and that's about it.
post #23727 of 24907
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Originally Posted by roytonboy View Post

Thank you very much.. Is there anyway you could provide pictures?? That was very helpful
post #23728 of 24907
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Originally Posted by covskin View Post

^ Lee are not so tied to numbers as Levi are - making it harder to pin things down over time - but I would be fairly confident that the Lee 101 *is* the current manifestation of the 'Lee Rider' that gets mentioned here. I don't think Lee have ever had the wide product range that Levi has. Over time there is sometimes a 'slim' and occasionally a 'bootcut' and that's about it.

That helps, thanks, lee 101s are the ones i will go for, i will prob get the ones i posted, and just turn them up+plus iron.

post #23729 of 24907
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Originally Posted by covskin View Post

^ you've obviously got better eyesight than me! Lee have been non-selvedge since whenever, Wrangler I'm not sure about but they have the overlapped seam on the outside of the leg I think which will obscure that, Levi were selvedge up to early 80s.

The truth is selvedge actually didn't matter back then.

Not to rain on your parade, mate - but I swear several hundred pages back an original (BrownieCJ?) told us that sewing in turn-ups had primarily been about "showing off the selvedge".

 

Anyway, if it turns out that you're right I'll get turn-ups sewn into that pair of non-selvedge 501s from ebay I've got lying around here - and defeat critics with my newly acquired knowledge (internal turn-ups was the original plan).

post #23730 of 24907
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Originally Posted by Bela Kun View Post

Not to rain on your parade, mate - but I swear several hundred pages back an original (BrownieCJ?) told us that sewing in turn-ups had primarily been about "showing off the selvedge".

Anyway, if it turns out that you're right I'll get turn-ups sewn into that pair of non-selvedge 501s from ebay I've got lying around here - and defeat critics with my newly acquired knowledge (internal turn-ups was the original plan).

Maybe Covskin was referring to the 80s, where, at least here, we didn't mind about selvage ?
Not the case of English lads i heard of, who were already chasin' the vintage Levi early 80s, but they were the exception i guess.

Now if you wear your jeans with turn ups, selvage are a must. (Not my case for a long time, that is why i don't mind about selvage)
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