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Yes, my apologies Newton Heath, welcome. I agree with your definitions with the slight exception of 'Smoothies'.With us (about 6 miles away!) the term Smoothie was already in use in early 1971 (i.e. late Skinhead but pre-Suedehead) It was a complementary term used for someone in the most up-to-date Skinhead clothes but whose hair was longer - probably collar length, but short at the front , meaning he looked 'smooth' as opposed to the more aggressive appearance of the crop. (some of the girls preferred this look) The term was also used in the context you refer to later, i.e. post Suedehead when lads were growing their hair longer and were moving away from the skinhead look (penny round collars, scoop neck tank tops, maybe even stack heel shoes etc.) I always associate crombies and brollies with 'Suedehead' which were seen in our area late 1971 and early 1972 (the brollies were a very short lived fad, no more than a couple of months in Autumn '71). I only heard people talking about Smoothies as a youth sub-culture on a tiny number of occasions and even then over a short period of time.

So, I was a skinhead late '69 to late '71, evolved into a suedehead late 71 to spring 72 then grew my hair to become a bootboy. I never was a Smoothie, it was a move away from how I saw myself - I still wanted the look of the terraces and hardly ever went to a match in anything else but boots from 1969 -1973. (I was wearing clothes, obviously!)
I follow a non league team and still wear my boots but now for comfort and now I'm sixty one the away stewards thankfully don't ask me to take my laces out!
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I can't remember the year, probably mid 70's but I can still picture the first Copper I saw wearing DM's and it was at West Ham.

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Funny thing is early 80s when the met police tried to infiltrate the various gangs at Chelsea its said you could spot a young undercover copper cos he was the only one wearing DMS' 
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I follow a non league team and still wear my boots but now for comfort and now I'm sixty one the away stewards thankfully don't ask me to take my laces out!
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In my social circle we were taught never to trust the police. They were always considered to be the enemy.  However in the mid 70's one of our mates was Old Bill and he had won a commendation for tackling a villain who had a knife. He ended up in prison himself alongside another member of our mob for stealing cars from Fords and sending them to Ireland. We didn't have a clue what they were up to but we had a drink before their trial to send them off.

As a respectable middle class person today I still don't trust the police.

Once a Herbert always a Herbert.

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In my social circle we were taught never to trust the police. They were always considered to be the enemy.  However in the mid 70's one of our mates was Old Bill and he had won a commendation for tackling a villain who had a knife. He ended up in prison himself alongside another member of our mob for stealing cars from Fords and sending them to Ireland. We didn't have a clue what they were up to but we had a drink before their trial to send them off.
As a respectable middle class person today I still don't trust the police.
Once a Herbert always a Herbert.

I know what you mean.

I'm torn two ways - I still remember the nark who dragged me out of a cafe in Blackpool and hauled me off to the cop shop on suss alone, the Met plod who trod deliberately on my heels when I joined an anti-Vietnam-war march in London (both 1967), the City copper who, when I came across a burnt-out office and said "Blimey, what happened here?" replied "What the fuck does it look like!" (1971), and hearing from a mate who was a Merseyside sergeant about the off-duty coppers during the Toxteth riots, who went onto local roofs armed with sporting catapults and ballbearings (1981). I also have had some really great friends in blue, like right now the daughter of a family friend who is as straight as they come and on her way to becoming Juliet Bravo.

The police are okay when they're looking after you, and not when they're just an arm of the state fucking you over and protecting the rich against being annoyed by... well... by us Herberts.
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I think the Police were/ still are to a lesser extent, innately suspicious of groups of young men. They had an observation platform built in the Shed- unless we were playing West Ham who always had a pop, or Arsenal before my time in the original skin era, there was never any trouble there because there was no one to fight with. Instead to justify their existence they threw people out for .... all. I once got slung out for over celebrating a goal.
The Liverpool constabulary with those long sticks were probably the worst of the lot
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The police were the biggest gang of thugs in town. They don't look much up to it these days though, too many fat-arsed women and the like.
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Gents - The Friday Challenge on the Classic Menswear board is 'The 20th Century Man' and a number of regular posters here on Mod to Suedehead have enetered.  It is a multiple choice vote and the Poll is up here:

 

 

http://www.styleforum.net/t/521580/friday-challenge-4-15-2016-the-20th-century-man

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Just to let you all know that I'm back transcribing material from the earlier pages, with a view to getting the book into shape. I know I've been at it for a long time, but it is more laborious than you would think - if I can cover ten pages in a couple of hours I'm lucky. So I'm still a long way behind, but I'm not at a standstill. I'm going to try to get a couple of mornings a week at it during the summer (May to August, inclusive) and see how it goes.
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Originally Posted by Mr Knightley View Post

Gents - The Friday Challenge on the Classic Menswear board is 'The 20th Century Man' and a number of regular posters here on Mod to Suedehead have enetered.  It is a multiple choice vote and the Poll is up here:


http://www.styleforum.net/t/521580/friday-challenge-4-15-2016-the-20th-century-man

Haha, now just needs a little push for @Clouseau and @McDermott !
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I guess most of us have pushed by now but still a chance!
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Saw this mint, vintage 44" Sears Clicker/Drizzler jacket going on US ebay. Works out to about £28 (including p&p) if you live in the UK.

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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post

Just to let you all know that I'm back transcribing material from the earlier pages, with a view to getting the book into shape. I know I've been at it for a long time, but it is more laborious than you would think - if I can cover ten pages in a couple of hours I'm lucky. So I'm still a long way behind, but I'm not at a standstill. I'm going to try to get a couple of mornings a week at it during the summer (May to August, inclusive) and see how it goes.

It seems like you are making an heroic effort.. I believe it is an area of recent social history that has never been properly covered before.

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It seems like you are making an heroic effort..


I'm having a running go at it, let's put it that way.
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I've managed to reach page 700.

Jeez Loo-eez, this is like straining sh*t through a sock! biggrin.gif
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