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http://www.theparkas.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/gwp-TheParkas-12.jpg

I think these are adaptor suits what these lads are wearing (pic is big), they look alright to me, im far from being an expert of suits, though. 

The thing with ready to wear suits though is that they stay the same (proportions stay the same, only the scale changes) even though everyone is different. You really do have to try them on and be ready to walk away. So many things to go wrong, generally length issues are fixable (within reason) but width issues are not. Then there are matters of pitch and balance...basically choose whatever suit sits smoothest on you yet doesn't cramp *any* of your movement.
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http://www.theparkas.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/gwp-TheParkas-12.jpg

 

I think these are adaptor suits what these lads are wearing (pic is big), they look alright to me, im far from being an expert of suits, though. 


My first impression was that those guys look scruffy . It isn't easy to tell with the jackets( due to the slouched pose) but they both look a bit baggy especially on the wee guy. Both of them have trousers that are too long and the shoes only enhance the scruffy look -they need a good polish . The covered buttons look good , right enough. .

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i was just looking at the suits to be fair lol, was the only high res pic i could find i would definitely have the trousers shortened if i bought a suit.

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Originally Posted by The Saint View Post
 


My first impression was that those guys look scruffy . It isn't easy to tell with the jackets( due to the slouched pose) but they both look a bit baggy especially on the wee guy. Both of them have trousers that are too long and the shoes only enhance the scruffy look -they need a good polish . The covered buttons look good , right enough. .

looks like a travellers wedding .

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You see, that's the awful thing about it. 'Waterloo Sunset' is a really well-written song. It's rightly held up as an example of Ray Davies' songwriting at its best. BUT, it represents an aesthetic when British beat groups had lost their 'edge'. I mean, just compare 'Waterloo Sunset' with 'You Really Got Me' and you'll see what I mean.

As for 'Dead End Street', I didn't mention that, you did. Just saying.

I guess I mentioned 'Dead End Street' as it was 66, only a year before 'Waterloo Sunset' came out but two years after 'YRGM'.  BTW Bob the Badger 'Dead End Street' was an A side.  Arguably 1969's 'Victoria' still has an 'edge'.  At any rate the Fall covered it in 1988.

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Certainly that Dancing Bear pish is right up there with Keith West and his Grocer Jack crap but again at the time they were songs that stuck in your mind  .

 

Waterloo Sunset is a classic that I remember even my old dad liked (he must have been a Kinks fan deep down) but obviously it didn't have the excitement or the edge that you get with other classics like All Day and all of the Night or You Really Got Me. . overall , the 6t's had the best music of any decade I have lived through , in my opinion. .

Have to agree with you there about the 60's being the best decade re music.  I was only just born then but to say otherwise as Lester Bangs once said 'aint nostalgia, it's just good taste'!

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Here’s my theory re suit buttons etc:

 

Post-war Pre-mod era: Demob suits, often double breasted but with only one button ‘doupable’ generally buttoned up.

Mod era: Three buttons inspired by Continental and Ivy styles help to subtly show greater choice in life and an end to austerity – one middle button or top two both accepted done up.  All three buttons less so as too confining and doesn’t really look that ‘cool’ in terms of ‘relaxed nonchalance’ in that their style is almost innate and also 'open' to new influences as long as they are cool.  Also a good counterpoint to the rockers' skintight stovepipes.

Skinhead era: Pretty much same as above but now only top button done up also ok (not sure why this was though?).  Now okay to loosen tie and top button of shirt.  All three buttons done up rejected outright.

Current Hipster era: Everything skin tight – trousers, suit, to show the uptightness and insularity of today.


Edited by Soul Vision - 12/20/15 at 3:55pm
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Originally Posted by Bob the Badger View Post
 

This is very good advice from someone who obviously knows what they are talking about. Not sure that I would go to the charity shop for polo shirts though.


Ah now, who hasn't been stung by the lure of cheap suits/tonic, and i still say you can't beat a nice charity shop polo. 

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Not sure that I would go to the charity shop for polo shirts though.


I work in a charity shop. You would be surprised!
post #22615 of 25615
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Originally Posted by Bob the Badger View Post

No ifs, no buts Waterloo Sunset is classic London song. The old mods I know still think of it as an all-time great. Dead End Street was a great B- side. I still have the 45 in my collection.

Yes, like I said, it's a well-written song. BUT (LOL) it isn't 'You Really Got Me'. biggrin.gif
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The thing with ready to wear suits though is that they stay the same (proportions stay the same, only the scale changes) even though everyone is different. You really do have to try them on and be ready to walk away. So many things to go wrong, generally length issues are fixable (within reason) but width issues are not. Then there are matters of pitch and balance...basically choose whatever suit sits smoothest on you yet doesn't cramp *any* of your movement.

Agree with that. You've always got to try a suit, even if you know your size, as the cut is always different.

But sometimes you could be lucky with 'ready to wear' suits.

A few years ago, i found in a sale a Merc suit, not their usual (and TBH ugly) 3b shiny tonic suit, but a 2b affair, with side vents, in a very nice blue, slightly tonic, in a mix of silk and wool. The jacket and trouser have a nice slim cut. I paid 90 euros for it (65 quids) as it was hugely reduced. 

I had to have some alterations done, but as it was length issues, as says Covskin, it was fixable.

 

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The only pictures i have of this suit. Excuse the huge 'Candy' tie, it was at a wedding...

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Originally Posted by flyfronted View Post
 

looks like a travellers wedding .

 

You are very polite. .:)

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Originally Posted by Soul Vision View Post
 

I guess I mentioned 'Dead End Street' as it was 66, only a year before 'Waterloo Sunset' came out but two years after 'YRGM'.  BTW Bob the Badger 'Dead End Street' was an A side.  Arguably 1969's 'Victoria' still has an 'edge'.  At any rate the Fall covered it in 1988.

Yes, I forgot that Dead End Street was an A side. Funny though I always regarded it as a B side. I must have both singles in storage.

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Took some pictures (a bit blurred) of my cheapo Merc suit.

 

 

 

So it's a Navy color, 2b, slanted pockets, side vents.

Blue satin lining.

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Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post

Took some pictures (a bit blurred) of my cheapo Merc suit.







So it's a Navy color, 2b, slanted pockets, side vents.
Blue satin lining.

If it fits and you are happy with the details then that is a result. I think people can be too doctrinaire on the details of a 'skinhead' suit.
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