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Does this suit look any good?

 

http://www.adaptorclothing.com/products/adaptor-suit-s13577pc3150-blue-gold--adaptor-clothing-mod-skin-60s-retro-tonic-3-button-slim-suit-bl.html

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Actually 'The Concrete and the Clay' was a pretty good disk. The truth is that back in the 60s we all listened to whatever pop music was on the radio, and a lot of the stuff by British 'beat groups' was good.

Until they went all 'Simon Smith and his Amazing Dancing Bear' / 'Waterloo Sunset' / 'My name is Jack' on our asses.


Can't agree with you about Waterloo Sunset - I reckon it is a classic.  And 'Dead End Street' is a true punk record, 

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Chas Chandler, bass player in The Animals 'discovered' Jimi Hendrix and encouraged his career. Then went on to be producer of most of Slade's golden era.
I believe Burdon and Price hate eachother cos somehow Price finangled a 'trad. arr.' writing credit for House of the Rising Son so he gets an extra check whenever it's used!


I think Alan Price was the most 'mod' one in the Animals.  I used to have a book about them and there was a great shot of him in a beautiful maroon mohair suit but can't find the pic online.  And some of the stuff he did with the Alan Price Set was pretty darn good - like this number a bit R and B, Stax style horns but with a touch of almost ska in the backbeat, no surprise he got together with Georgie Fame later:

 

Alan Price Set Any Day Now

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_HxB-TQIfc

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Some stuff of possible interest about 1960's suits, even in the mid sixties I see two button suits were worn:

 

that bridge it was where I used to run down to meet my Dad off the bus from work…such memories


Picture

                                           
Photo is of Ray Sabini and Alan Dawson at Selsey circa 1965/66.

Alan French
The Tonic Mohair suits are Fab. Wonder if they are courtesy of Aubrey Morris?

James Sanderson
Pretty sure RS went to Aubrey as did I and a lot more of the Highbury Mob. AD always went to Connicks in Dalston.

Barry Page
Two other Highbury tailors come to mind, both located in Holloway Road near Highbury Corner. The first was Barrie Yarrow, a Jewish bespoke tailor whose tiny workshop was sandwiched between two other shops in a terrace - now long gone - just to the north of the car park (Majestic?) where the Highbury Picture Palace used to be. My old man always went there for one-off suits.
The second outlet was N.Berg, located virtually opposite Barrie Yarrow's place in the row of shops just before Digswell Street. One day I pissed off my mother by insisting buying clothes from there (it was up-market and, hence, more expensive than other clothiers) and, given our meagre lifestyle, she came down heavily on me, giving me a good lesson about the sense of values. We didn't speak for a long time afterwards, and I never looked into the shop's window     again. These are acute memories of  fifty-plus years ago.

Micky Simmonds
I went where my dad went - Curtis in Pentonville Road. Great mohair and blue also had a lovely Crombie made there. What was the name of the suit maker in Upper Street?

Alan French
I had a Blue Serge Suit, two Tonics, £30 each and a wedding suit £72 made at A/M. The money came from my extra job playing in the band at The New Crown, Canonbury. I have a picture of the brown tonic. The other tailor I knew was Dave Wax, Islington Green.

John Tythe
Ahh, the window to watch.  I think John Collier & Montague Burton were next door to each other @ the Angel in the 60’s.
Aged 16, my old man took me to his tailor – Bernard Kolsky on Kingsland Waste, for my first suit.  On the second fitting the jacket was 3 inches lower on the right than on the left.  Kolsky manipulated me to stand like Quasimodo / John Merrick, until the jacked appeared to be the same left to right.  “There, perfect!” he said.
I took off the jacket gave it back, telling him to cut it again and to phone when he’d done it. I then walked out. Got a real bollocking from my old man as he had been using Kolsky since the mid 30’s.
I never got the phone call and I never went back.

Micky Simmonds
That tailor Kolsky is still on the waste but maybe with a different name. Has anyone thought of the name of the tailor at the Angel where the new Angel station is?

Johnny Pearce
Well, Mr Sanderson, at my granddaughter s birthday party last week my ex wife told me that she had found a coat hanger in her wardrobe and it had Aubrey Morris’s name on it. Mind you we have been divorced over 20yrs. It was for the suit I got married in. She asked me if I would like it. Do you think she was trying to tell me something?

Micky Simmonds
Funny enough Alan, we used to go down the New Crown nearly every Friday night to see the live groups. My sister friend Brenda Wilson used to go out with one of the group’s players and I do believe she later married him so maybe I saw you playing but didn't know who you were.


 

PictureGriff 'Lew' Lewis and his girlfriend Brenda, now his wife.

Barry Page
I thought you might be interested in this link from the Guardian: John Michael Ingram obituary,  menswear designer whose refined tailoring made his clothes and shops a favourite of 1960s mods.

http://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2014/jul/03/john-michael-ingram

James Sanderson
Nice one Barry, enjoyed the article. Of course, not a patch on Aubrey Morris or Connicks.

Michael Isaacs
I always had to use Adonis in Carnaby Street because they were the only ones that stocked 32 waist/34 leg trousers, I was mostly ok for jackets, although I had trouble getting the right sleeve length. I mostly had my suits made at Hepworths which I had an account at (get hep with Hepworth's) rather than John Collier (the window to watch). The other grief I used to get with shirts was that if I got my size, a 15 and a half collar, then the sleeves and body were too short, if I got a bigger size they were like a bleedin' tent. Sadly 50 years later the sizes for me have changed somewhat!!


Griff Lewis
The first suit I got was from a tailors down Seven Sisters Road, whose name I cannot now remember. I then went to Aubrey Morris, but later got most of my suits from Alfred Myers                                                                                                           (Wardour Street opposite Brewer Street) almost next to the Marquee.

Barry Page
It was in my mid-teenage when I bought my first made-to-measure suit. It was from John Collier at the Angel, and my Dad supervised the whole exercise from initial approach through several fittings and the final product purchase. He knew the trade and so made sure the tailor didn't skimp. He told me that during the measure-up, the tailor would want to know, "Which side do you dress, sir?" When I looked at Dad mystified, he then said bluntly "In other words, which side do your balls hang!!"

It was a nice, hard wearing whistle: two-piece, single-breasted light grey with subtle pinstripe. The trousers had turn-ups and 20 inch bottoms (I think). Like Mickey Isaacs, I had the same problems with shirts. usually ended up with M & S, but the sleeves were way too short. It was the "St. Michael" quality at a reasonable price more than anything else. Shoes were another challenge with my big No.10s, but Clarks at the Nag's Head usually could fill my needs - some nice chisel toes in particular.

Alan French
Thought you might like this, with quote about Aubrey Morris.

http://www.themodgeneration.co.uk/2010/11/mods-and-mohair.html

This is a link to a website called the Mod generation containing the article ‘Mods and Mohair Suits’ by John Leo Waters, an Islington boy from the Archway. Ed.

Micky Simmonds
My first suit was from Weaver to Wearer at the Angel; a Prince of Wales Check. Cost to my dad £9.19.6d. Then went to Economics for a pair of winkle pickers at £2.7.6d. Good old days.

Paul Lomas
Great picture of Ray & Alan. (see above) All my suits were off the peg; the best suit I owned was bottle green which I would wear to go to the Royal and Lyceum to pull the birds :) Great days listening and dancing to 'The Johnny Howard Band'.
 
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Can't agree with you about Waterloo Sunset - I reckon it is a classic.  And 'Dead End Street' is a true punk record, 

You see, that's the awful thing about it. 'Waterloo Sunset' is a really well-written song. It's rightly held up as an example of Ray Davies' songwriting at its best. BUT, it represents an aesthetic when British beat groups had lost their 'edge'. I mean, just compare 'Waterloo Sunset' with 'You Really Got Me' and you'll see what I mean.

As for 'Dead End Street', I didn't mention that, you did. Just saying.
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No it doesn't. If you buy a suit like that, it won't fit, so you're looking at adjustments which it won't handle well because of the cheap construction... it'll never feel right.

The material will be thin and lacklustre, it might look alright for a couple of wears but that's about it. If you are gonna buy a cheap suit,tonic is not the way to go, at the drop of a hat it'll pop a thread and start to unravel faster than a met armed response units cover story...

From your photo you look like a youngish fella, my advice would be hold back on the suit, maybe use the money to get some nice trousers made up and depending on where you live you'd have enough change for a nice shirt or some knit wear to go with them. You can do smart and sharp without a suit and a lot of the time i think it's more interesting as a "look". Get some nice brogues, take your time, after xmas is a good time to look for stuff. See if you can pick up some vintage polo shirts in charity shops or ebay. Check out m&s or john smedley in the new year sales or uniqlo for nice 3-4 button placket polo shirts.

If you add say 50 quid to that there 150 you could pick up two or three nice things that would serve you better and longer than a 150 quid suit. Don't do it mate it's a false economy.

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No it doesn't. If you buy a suit like that, it won't fit, so you're looking at adjustments which it won't handle well because of the cheap construction... it'll never feel right.

The material will be thin and lacklustre, it might look alright for a couple of wears but that's about it. If you are gonna buy a cheap suit,tonic is not the way to go, at the drop of a hat it'll pop a thread and start to unravel faster than a met armed response units cover story...

From your photo you look like a youngish fella, my advice would be hold back on the suit, maybe use the money to get some nice trousers made up and depending on where you live you'd have enough change for a nice shirt or some knit wear to go with them. You can do smart and sharp without a suit and a lot of the time i think it's more interesting as a "look". Get some nice brogues, take your time, after xmas is a good time to look for stuff. See if you can pick up some vintage polo shirts in charity shops or ebay. Check out m&s or john smedley in the new year sales or uniqlo for nice 3-4 button placket polo shirts.

If you add say 50 quid to that there 150 you could pick up two or three nice things that would serve you better and longer than a 150 quid suit. Don't do it mate it's a false economy.

 

Yeah thats what i was thinking, to be fair im not the biggest fan of tonic, too shiny for my tastes, just looked like a decent price, wouldnt mind a pinstripe in a mod/skin cut to be fair.

 

Might just stick to getting more selvedge jeans for now, maybe another jtg shirt, never been a big fan of polos.

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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post


You see, that's the awful thing about it. 'Waterloo Sunset' is a really well-written song. It's rightly held up as an example of Ray Davies' songwriting at its best. BUT, it represents an aesthetic when British beat groups had lost their 'edge'. I mean, just compare 'Waterloo Sunset' with 'You Really Got Me' and you'll see what I mean.

As for 'Dead End Street', I didn't mention that, you did. Just saying.


Certainly that Dancing Bear pish is right up there with Keith West and his Grocer Jack crap but again at the time they were songs that stuck in your mind  .

 

Waterloo Sunset is a classic that I remember even my old dad liked (he must have been a Kinks fan deep down) but obviously it didn't have the excitement or the edge that you get with other classics like All Day and all of the Night or You Really Got Me. . overall , the 6t's had the best music of any decade I have lived through , in my opinion. .

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It is difficult to say without seeing it on , Buddie. The colour looks decent enough. .

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Originally Posted by vendetta69 View Post
 


No it doesn't. If you buy a suit like that, it won't fit, so you're looking at adjustments which it won't handle well because of the cheap construction... it'll never feel right.

The material will be thin and lacklustre, it might look alright for a couple of wears but that's about it. If you are gonna buy a cheap suit,tonic is not the way to go, at the drop of a hat it'll pop a thread and start to unravel faster than a met armed response units cover story...

From your photo you look like a youngish fella, my advice would be hold back on the suit, maybe use the money to get some nice trousers made up and depending on where you live you'd have enough change for a nice shirt or some knit wear to go with them. You can do smart and sharp without a suit and a lot of the time i think it's more interesting as a "look". Get some nice brogues, take your time, after xmas is a good time to look for stuff. See if you can pick up some vintage polo shirts in charity shops or ebay. Check out m&s or john smedley in the new year sales or uniqlo for nice 3-4 button placket polo shirts.

If you add say 50 quid to that there 150 you could pick up two or three nice things that would serve you better and longer than a 150 quid suit. Don't do it mate it's a false economy.

This is very good advice from someone who obviously knows what they are talking about. Not sure that I would go to the charity shop for polo shirts though.

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No ifs, no buts Waterloo Sunset is classic London song. The old mods I know still think of it as an all-time great. Dead End Street was a great B- side. I still have the 45 in my collection.

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Yes Waterloo sunset is definitely a classic. I was lucky enough to see The Kinks live (it was already one of their re-formation i think) something like 25 years ago at "la fête de l'Huma". It may be one of - i f not THE - best concert i ever saw. (And i must say i saw many) They played for hours...

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It is difficult to say without seeing it on , Buddie. The colour looks decent enough. .

 

Yeah the colour is nice, not too shiny for my tastes which usually puts me off tonic suits, there's no tailors round my end so that is not really an option, plus the price.

 

I don't wear suits very often at all so i probably would not wear it out, £20 cheap suit i bought just for formal occasions is still holding up.

 

Dunno what to do really, A £150 quid suit is out of my price range most of the time.

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Originally Posted by Donkey Jacket View Post
 

 

Yeah the colour is nice, not too shiny for my tastes which usually puts me off tonic suits, there's no tailors round my end so that is not really an option, plus the price.

 

I don't wear suits very often at all so i probably would not wear it out, £20 cheap suit i bought just for formal occasions is still holding up.

 

Dunno what to do really, A £150 quid suit is out of my price range most of the time.


To be fair , I don't know anything about Adaptor suits, I don't know if I have ever seen one in real life but certainly a low cost suit will often look exactly like that . Jump the Gun, Adam of London and DNAgroove all do good quality versions of the kind of suits we like but they sell for more than £150 but mostly they are using more expensive quality yarns . Mohair as a fabric always works well in a suit. . however a cheap suit can often be enhanced with an expensive tie and a good quality shirt. .

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http://www.theparkas.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/gwp-TheParkas-12.jpg

 

I think these are adaptor suits what these lads are wearing (pic is big), they look alright to me, im far from being an expert of suits, though. 

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