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post #22216 of 24859
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Originally Posted by Soul Vision View Post
 

Actually the pic highlights a difference perhaps between the originals and the revival lot - the former really didn't care about displaying any allegiances to bands, football teams, music genres etc. except perhaps via scarves and tattoos?  By the late seventies there was a whole industry flogging badges, pins, t shirts etc...


This is true and it's something that's always bugged me when I see (for example) current-day Mods with patches of punk bands on their parkas etc... I mean each to their own but it seems odd.

I also see a lot of Trojan Records badges, 'Keep The Faith' patches, etc in use nowadays but not so much on pictures of originals. I have been guilty of the occasional badge on a denim jacket (usually no more than one or two, on the pocket, and preferably of the enamel sort) but they look out of place on any other jacket, eg harrington or blazer. A harrington with patches on it just looks wrong imho. Although I have considered using a badge to cover up the Fred Perry logo on one of mine. I try to avoid wearing that particular jacket with a Fred Perry shirt or jumper as the duplication of logos annoys the hell out of me.

post #22217 of 24859
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This is true and it's something that's always bugged me when I see (for example) current-day Mods with patches of punk bands on their parkas etc... I mean each to their own but it seems odd.
I also see a lot of Trojan Records badges, 'Keep The Faith' patches, etc in use nowadays but not so much on pictures of originals. I have been guilty of the occasional badge on a denim jacket (usually no more than one or two, on the pocket, and preferably of the enamel sort) but they look out of place on any other jacket, eg harrington or blazer. A harrington with patches on it just looks wrong imho. Although I have considered using a badge to cover up the Fred Perry logo on one of mine. I try to avoid wearing that particular jacket with a Fred Perry shirt or jumper as the duplication of logos annoys the hell out of me.


I agree fully on most of this, and (even though I'm of the MA-1 brigade) I like the "no brands, no patches" on my jackets. I have a couple small enamel badges that I'll wear on a jean or harrington jacket collar. One RAF/mod type ½" enamel badge but in my club colors(identical to Wolves' colors), or a tiny ½" Super Yob enamel badge, or a tiny enamel crest for my hometown. Always one at a time, and discreetly. To me, having patches either looks punk, or paramilitary. I say keep it neat and keep it clean. The only outward logos I like are the Fred Perry laurels and the Lacoste croc, and that's only on the polo because it looks good there!
post #22218 of 24859
Ha! I wear a small enamel bullseye to cover the Fred Perry laurels on my Harrington jacket. Great minds ...

BTW, I don't recall much evidence of badges etc in pics of sixties Mods except for Townshend who would festoon his white denim jacket with badges, medals and all kinds of schmuttah.
post #22219 of 24859
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Originally Posted by Thin White Duke View Post

Ha! I wear a small enamel bullseye to cover the Fred Perry laurels on my Harrington jacket. Great minds ...

BTW, I don't recall much evidence of badges etc in pics of sixties Mods except for Townshend who would festoon his white denim jacket with badges, medals and all kinds of schmuttah.

That's true but they looked like they were all from junk shops etc, a previous era, none of them said "Tamla Motown", "I'm the Face" or "Pete Meaden for PM"!

post #22220 of 24859
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Originally Posted by Botolph View Post


I agree fully on most of this, and (even though I'm of the MA-1 brigade) I like the "no brands, no patches" on my jackets. I have a couple small enamel badges that I'll wear on a jean or harrington jacket collar. One RAF/mod type ½" enamel badge but in my club colors(identical to Wolves' colors), or a tiny ½" Super Yob enamel badge, or a tiny enamel crest for my hometown. Always one at a time, and discreetly. To me, having patches either looks punk, or paramilitary. I say keep it neat and keep it clean. The only outward logos I like are the Fred Perry laurels and the Lacoste croc, and that's only on the polo because it looks good there!

'Keep it neat and keep it clean' was exactly the mantra of my mob. We would have agreed with you on the logos as well. I seem to remember a Slazenger logo was also acceptable. I think the Fred Perry logo is or was the best logo of all but that would for me be down to nostalgia.

post #22221 of 24859
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Originally Posted by Thin White Duke View Post



BTW, I don't recall much evidence of badges etc in pics of sixties Mods except for Townshend who would festoon his white denim jacket with badges, medals and all kinds of schmuttah.



Now you come to mention it, I'm sure I remember watching Ready Steady Go! somewhere in the mid 60s, and Cathy McGowan na Moonie were both in shot, and she was suggesting viewers sent in badges for Moonie to wear. I don't think it was the Ready Steady Who! special.

There's one photo floating around of me in 68 or 69 with a badge on the lapel of my jacket - I think it was a trades union badge - but no, you hardly ever saw badges back in the day, except maybe for the occasional enamel football club badge. I still have one for Blackpool FC in a box somewhere, but I don't know how old it is.
post #22222 of 24859
Yeah I think back in the sixties the market for pins, badges and patches hadn't been discovered yet. In the seventies you'd see both boot boys and the patchouli crowd wearing patches stitched on their denim jackets. The whole trend exploded during the revival days. I reckon it was because there were so many different youth cults by then that people felt the need to spell out their allegiance even though it was obvious by the way they were dressed. The whole thing died down in the eighties when hair became the means by which teenagers expressed themselves I can remember looking round our sixth form common room and you could tell exactly what kind of music each individual was into purely by the way they wore their barnet!
There was a shop in my city centre curiously named 'Durham Book Centre' (this wasn't in Durham!) and I reckon they sold more in the way of badges than anything else in the joint, including books!
post #22223 of 24859
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Originally Posted by kicksinstyle View Post
 


This is true and it's something that's always bugged me when I see (for example) current-day Mods with patches of punk bands on their parkas etc... I mean each to their own but it seems odd.

I also see a lot of Trojan Records badges, 'Keep The Faith' patches, etc in use nowadays but not so much on pictures of originals. I have been guilty of the occasional badge on a denim jacket (usually no more than one or two, on the pocket, and preferably of the enamel sort) but they look out of place on any other jacket, eg harrington or blazer. A harrington with patches on it just looks wrong imho. Although I have considered using a badge to cover up the Fred Perry logo on one of mine. I try to avoid wearing that particular jacket with a Fred Perry shirt or jumper as the duplication of logos annoys the hell out of me.

 

To be fair , I can't say I have ever seen current Mods wearing parkas with punk badges on them, indeed , I can't remember ever seeing Mods do this . The closest I have seen to it would be Mods with the Jam on parkas , say back in the 7ts. Is that what you are referring to? The Jam patches on parkas ?

 

 

I actually saw some Mods last weekend on vintage Vespa's and Lambretta's , the ones wearing parka's in this case , had no badges whatsoever , that I could see. .

post #22224 of 24859

Not really a style question, but a music one. Was James Brown popular with the original skins, or was this kind of heavier soul/funk not really 'on'?  I know that JB was a bit of a mod idol, so it'd be interesting to know if this persisted into the skinhead and suedehead eras.

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JB was popular with my mates from about 1972/3 when the clubs we went to started to play the jazz/funk style of music.1968/69 was all about ska, reggae, bluebeat etc. Soul music was big for us (Stax/Atlantic) pre 1969 and the local Palais played Tamla which we considered a bit commercial. 

post #22226 of 24859
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Originally Posted by Bela Kun View Post


Not really a style question, but a music one. Was James Brown popular with the original skins, or was this kind of heavier soul/funk not really 'on'?  I know that JB was a bit of a mod idol, so it'd be interesting to know if this persisted into the skinhead and suedehead eras.

I can say that James Brown was popular 'up North' while I was there, but when moved to London in mid-1968, I found that Jamaican music and commercial Tamla was more popular. I never heard James Brown records played at the Savoy Rooms, for example.

But I'll bet it was a question of where you went. I'm sure we had pics on here of a bunch who called themselves 'soulskins'.

(Autocorrect, thank you SO much for 'sealskins'. Not.)
post #22227 of 24859
Yes, I found it. The 'Soul Skins' from Market Harborough, Leicestershire, with their hairy mate Andy (rt).



I can't say precisely what 'soul' they liked, but JB might well have been up there.
post #22228 of 24859
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post

I can say that James Brown was popular 'up North' while I was there, but when moved to London in mid-1968, I found that Jamaican music and commercial Tamla was more popular. I never heard James Brown records played at the Savoy Rooms, for example.

But I'll bet it was a question of where you went. I'm sure we had pics on here of a bunch who called themselves 'soulskins'.

(Autocorrect, thank you SO much for 'sealskins'. Not.)
Bleedin; hippy!!!

I can't help but singing' along to the BBC keech that is currently bouncing on BBC 4 - kill me, enough!!!!

Dae me noo!


Found Acid in 1970 - and onwards.... Lucy in the Sky wiv Diamonds!!!
post #22229 of 24859
Style tip:

Never wear three shades of beige. Unless you're Cary Grant.



Nice tassel loafers, mate!
post #22230 of 24859
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post

I can say that James Brown was popular 'up North' while I was there, but when moved to London in mid-1968, I found that Jamaican music and commercial Tamla was more popular. I never heard James Brown records played at the Savoy Rooms, for example.

1968 soul Motown

1969 reggae

1970 James brown. Think he played Albert hall 70 or 71.

A simplification obviously.

Commercial ballrooms( top rank etc) tried to play as little black music as possible. They probably thought it would attract the wrong type of customers.
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