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Man-of-Mystery

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I seem to remember you saying the photos of my missus reminded you of an ex girlfriend of yours M-o-M - blimey she got about a bit didn't she? :D
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Yeah, if you mix the two of them you get my ex perfectly! :D
 

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My younger Sister had a similar Cut-early `69.Then grew it longer.


I remember the growing-it-longer stage. My ex did that too. A girl would brush it back from her forehead when the fringe got long. Very late '69 early 70. I had a pic of her with that style in 1970, with one of those check skirts and a long, waisted cardie - wish I still had it.
 
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The book.

I'm ashamed to say I haven't been able to give it attention over the summer, mainly due to having to deal with all my daughter's stuff (I won't bore you) and a book launch for a client, but also due to my own stupidity. Sorry, friends.

I'm now studying again, so that means I have even less free time during the week. But that also means that I will have to plan and structure my week, so if I plan things right it might actually be an advantage - I may be able to plan some time for the book. I'll let you know.

M-o-M
 

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The book.
I'm ashamed to say I haven't been able to give it attention over the summer, mainly due to having to deal with all my daughter's stuff (I won't bore you) and a book launch for a client, but also due to my own stupidity. Sorry, friends.
I'm now studying again, so that means I have even less free time during the week. But that also means that I will have to plan and structure my week, so if I plan things right it might actually be an advantage - I may be able to plan some time for the book. I'll let you know.
M-o-M


No problem,M-o-M,hope you find the time.
 

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I say, having read all of the 595 pages of this thread i both exhausted and enlightened, i registered just to participate in this thread. Having sported a punk style when i was younger i sort of drifted into the style not having the faintest idea that it was traditional skinhead style clothes (For me and my mates skinheads was the wankers dressed in green Ma1 and getta grips, bracers down and piss drunk shouting racist drivel, thats the 80s - 90s i suppose).

I just got more proper clothes as i managed to get steadier work and ended up having a wardrobe of the stuff. I sort of thought that it's proper clean, mod-like dress with none of the fancy details upon details upon details.

And i will follow this thread further, there's all sorts of good clothes advice here. By the way, i'm sorta looking for red boots, and i want them to be really deep dark red. Solovair or DM?
 

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I say, having read all of the 595 pages of this thread i both exhausted and enlightened, i registered just to participate in this thread. Having sported a punk style when i was younger i sort of drifted into the style not having the faintest idea that it was traditional skinhead style clothes (For me and my mates skinheads was the wankers dressed in green Ma1 and getta grips, bracers down and piss drunk shouting racist drivel, thats the 80s - 90s i suppose).


I just got more proper clothes as i managed to get steadier work and ended up having a wardrobe of the stuff. I sort of thought that it's proper clean, mod-like dress with none of the fancy details upon details upon details.

And i will follow this thread further, there's all sorts of good clothes advice here. By the way, i'm sorta looking for red boots, and i want them to be really deep dark red. Solovair or DM?


Can't go wrong with this site. The best skinhead discussion board anywhere online.

When you say redboots I'm going to assume you mean oxblood color? Solovair is the way to go.
 

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Yeah, I've found Solovair to be head and shoulders above the typical Dr. Martens/Gripfast/etc. fodder. Absolute quality, and they polish/bull up to a mirror finish.

Pardon my jumping in here so quickly. I signed on this board months back and took about as long to finish reading the whole thread. It truly is a masterpiece of skinhead lore shining a light on the early days of what was once street fashion, and is now a subculture.
As said in my previous post(about two-hundred pages back
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), I know Jason of the Asian Persuasion, and quite possibly one of the posters above me, if Ivyskin is who I think he is.
Anyways, reintro, I've been doing the skinhead thing for almost twenty-three years now(a blip on the radar in this camp of venerable elder skinsmen), got into it through the street, hanging around with the older heads in my area, which was factories and mills of Central Massachusetts(believe it or not there was a decent skinhead scene from the early '80s through the early '90s, no idea who started it). Never had a computer till the early 2000s, so I learned the way you're supposed to: through being there.
I've gotta say though, I've probably learned more about the origins and minutae of skinheadism in this thread than having been immersed in it for the past couple decades! A truly amazing piece of work you fellas have thus far accrued, and luckily the internet is forever because it's an amazing history lesson that can lay to rest a lot of the faction-oriented baldies out there on both sides of the spectrum(as in, the first skins weren't Jamaican and their raison d'etre wasn't to promote racism).

Having spoken to a good few original skinheads in my time(and read on here) and a bunch of original "casuals"(they hate that name), there definitely seems to be a strange line of descent from mod<skin<suede, etc.,<casual. When these "things of ours" were in their infancy and they were more a look than the cliched "way of life", the look moved on from week to week, month to month, as discussed in this thread. Skinhead started in the Sarff and Casual started in the Grim North, but both had their offshoots and regional takes on the style(s), whether or not some were behind the times. Both after a revival or settling, became static in their look, and both have an "identi-kit" aspect where any ding-bat can grab a [pair of Docs, some Levis, braces, and a Ben Sherman][pair of Adidas Tobacco, Lois cords, G.Armani jumper, and snide Stone Island jacket] off the internet, and blammo, they're a skinnedd or a casual, respectively. Of course those in the know can sniff out these sartorially-challenged or gay-community wannabe's by the way the stuff is worn.

Anyways, keep up the good work ladies and gentlemen. Pardon my caffeine-induced ranting, and carry on with the best skinhead forum on the interwebs.

Oh, and Jason, you've got to post pics from the Icepick gig in Japan fella. My jealousy knows no bounds!
 

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Yeah, I've found Solovair to be head and shoulders above the typical Dr. Martens/Gripfast/etc. fodder. Absolute quality, and they polish/bull up to a mirror finish.

Pardon my jumping in here so quickly. I signed on this board months back and took about as long to finish reading the whole thread. It truly is a masterpiece of skinhead lore shining a light on the early days of what was once street fashion, and is now a subculture.
As said in my previous post(about two-hundred pages back
smile.gif
), I know Jason of the Asian Persuasion, and quite possibly one of the posters above me, if Ivyskin is who I think he is.
Anyways, reintro, I've been doing the skinhead thing for almost twenty-three years now(a blip on the radar in this camp of venerable elder skinsmen), got into it through the street, hanging around with the older heads in my area, which was factories and mills of Central Massachusetts(believe it or not there was a decent skinhead scene from the early '80s through the early '90s, no idea who started it). Never had a computer till the early 2000s, so I learned the way you're supposed to: through being there.
I've gotta say though, I've probably learned more about the origins and minutae of skinheadism in this thread than having been immersed in it for the past couple decades! A truly amazing piece of work you fellas have thus far accrued, and luckily the internet is forever because it's an amazing history lesson that can lay to rest a lot of the faction-oriented baldies out there on both sides of the spectrum(as in, the first skins weren't Jamaican and their raison d'etre wasn't to promote racism).

Having spoken to a good few original skinheads in my time(and read on here) and a bunch of original "casuals"(they hate that name), there definitely seems to be a strange line of descent from mod<skin<suede, etc.,<casual. When these "things of ours" were in their infancy and they were more a look than the cliched "way of life", the look moved on from week to week, month to month, as discussed in this thread. Skinhead started in the Sarff and Casual started in the Grim North, but both had their offshoots and regional takes on the style(s), whether or not some were behind the times. Both after a revival or settling, became static in their look, and both have an "identi-kit" aspect where any ding-bat can grab a [pair of Docs, some Levis, braces, and a Ben Sherman][pair of Adidas Tobacco, Lois cords, G.Armani jumper, and snide Stone Island jacket] off the internet, and blammo, they're a skinnedd or a casual, respectively. Of course those in the know can sniff out these sartorially-challenged or gay-community wannabe's by the way the stuff is worn.

Anyways, keep up the good work ladies and gentlemen. Pardon my caffeine-induced ranting, and carry on with the best skinhead forum on the interwebs.

Oh, and Jason, you've got to post pics from the Icepick gig in Japan fella. My jealousy knows no bounds!


Think your find that Casual in the south was just a extension of football clobber that went back past the Skins of 67 -68 . Some garms were first worn by the Mickey's other styles were worn first by Londoners .
 

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Interesting. What would that sort of clobber be, and did it influence the early skinheads or the Mods before them that may have gone to fooball?
I do know that the whole origins of the dresser/casual thing was claimed by those Mersey-centric scallies and what have you, and they say that the Southerners were copying them. Suppose that's a debate for a whole other thread though.
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I was just referring to the rabid one-upmanship of both cults. Granted, these days skinhead is more of an ideal uniform than "casual" or "dresser", but they defintely have parallels in working class "dress better than your betters" ethic and week-to-week "keep up in the back" policy.
 
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Yes, the a darkish red. Back when i was into the punk thing i used to own a couple of oxblood red Underground but they were not that deep red colour. But i suppose oxblood isn't really a standardized colour?


When you say redboots I'm going to assume you mean oxblood color? Solovair is the way to go.
 

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Just one question; The white shirts of the early era, are they of some special kind/brand? Or are they just generic white shirts?
 

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Just one question; The white shirts of the early era, are they of some special kind/brand? Or are they just generic white shirts?


I seem to recall there was a discussion about white shirts on here awhile back. Any white shirt would suffice though Van Heusen was also popular.
 

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Arnold Palmer was another one that I recall but not sure whether that was an actual 'brand' as such.

Anyway, different subject - just found this pic on the Skinhead Revolt site and if I'm not mistaken the copper appears to be wearing my old favourites, Monkey boots - thought it was de rigeur for coppers to wear DMs in the mid 70s?

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