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Just to throw my two cents :

 

"It was 1959. I was 14, at a battle of the bands competition. I saw three guys there, they had Tony Curtis haircuts, were wearing bum-freezer jackets, cutaway collar shirts, slim Jim ties, tapered trousers, winkle-pickers with side laces. I went up to them and asked: "Why are you dressed like that?" They said: "We're modernists." I didn't know what that meant but I thought, I'm going to be a modernist."

 

full text here :  http://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/jan/11/lloyd-johnson-rock-n-roll-fashion

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Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post
 

Just to throw my two cents :

 

"It was 1959. I was 14, at a battle of the bands competition. I saw three guys there, they had Tony Curtis haircuts, were wearing bum-freezer jackets, cutaway collar shirts, slim Jim ties, tapered trousers, winkle-pickers with side laces. I went up to them and asked: "Why are you dressed like that?" They said: "We're modernists." I didn't know what that meant but I thought, I'm going to be a modernist."

 

full text here :  http://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/jan/11/lloyd-johnson-rock-n-roll-fashion

Sounds like more than a little from the Teddy boy look in that gear,did some of the late Teds become Mods I wonder ?.

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Hi ! 

 

I'm new here. Do any of you know when you started wearing adidas? Is it more "casual" related stuff?

 

Here's a picture of a kinda choir from Mtl(where I live)

 

They're wearing Ivy outfit but one of them has a pair of adidas! In 1966...*

post #17374 of 18770
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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post
 

Sounds like more than a little from the Teddy boy look in that gear,did some of the late Teds become Mods I wonder ?.

I remember seeing an article about a bunch of sharp-dressed-bad-lads from around the Finsbury Park (I think) area. It was a reprint of an old, late fifties/very early sixties article. It was a sort of 'where are now ?' story.

The fellas were pretty well turned-out in the original photos. Their look was not quite Ted, not quite Mod, and not quite full-on spiv. It looked like they were definitely Teds at some point, but some had gone off on a more individualistic tangent, and given it a modern twist.

The guys were very young, didn't seem to have any legitimate gainful employment. Yet they obviously had money and tailors.


Edited by Inks - 3/20/14 at 7:48am
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I remember seeing an article about a bunch of sharp-dressed-bad-lads from around the Finsbury Park (I think) area. It was a reprint of an old, late fifties/very early sixties article. It was a sort of 'where are now ?' story.

The fellas were pretty well turned-out in the original photos. Their look was not quite Ted, not quite Mod, and not quite full-on spiv. It looked like they were definitely Teds at some point, but some had gone off on a more individualistic tangent, and given it a modern twist.

The guys were very young, didn't seem to have any legitimate gainful employment. Yet they obviously had money and tailors.

I suppose that theres always individual blokes ( or groups of mates ) who will take some of a look and as you say give it a moderm twist.

I think that some of the original Teds used Savile Row tailors and looked smart,I have seen pictures of early Mods in suits that reminded me a little of smart Teds suits.

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I suppose that theres always individual blokes ( or groups of mates ) who will take some of a look and as you say give it a moderm twist.

I think that some of the original Teds used Savile Row tailors and looked smart,I have seen pictures of early Mods in suits that reminded me a little of smart Teds suits.

I managed to find one of the photos from the article I was talking about Cern. The guys were indeed from Finsbury Park. They were a street gang know as The Guvnors. The first two guys on the left definitely had a Ted thing going on. They've got the quiffs, but their clothing looks more American, than trad UK Ted (sort of Derek Bentley-ish). But as you go right, the clobber gets more modern. (I don't know whether that was deliberate on the part of the photographer) The guy on the far right looks very Mod for 1958. Maybe the guys on the left, were older than those on the right.

I must say, they were pretty well turned out for a gang.

Quite an iconic photo. Almost looks like an album cover.

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almost as pefect a pair of shoes you can buy ,, Church's ' Smooths ' 

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No info.

But I'll go for '70. (June)
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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

I managed to find one of the photos from the article I was talking about Cern. The guys were indeed from Finsbury Park. They were a street gang know as The Guvnors. The first two guys on the left definitely had a Ted thing going on. They've got the quiffs, but their clothing looks more American, than trad UK Ted (sort of Derek Bentley-ish). But as you go right, the clobber gets more modern. (I don't know whether that was deliberate on the part of the photographer) The guy on the far right looks very Mod for 1958. Maybe the guys on the left, were older than those on the right.
I must say, they were pretty well turned out for a gang.
Quite an iconic photo. Almost looks like an album cover.
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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

I managed to find one of the photos from the article I was talking about Cern. The guys were indeed from Finsbury Park. They were a street gang know as The Guvnors. The first two guys on the left definitely had a Ted thing going on. They've got the quiffs, but their clothing looks more American, than trad UK Ted (sort of Derek Bentley-ish). But as you go right, the clobber gets more modern. (I don't know whether that was deliberate on the part of the photographer) The guy on the far right looks very Mod for 1958. Maybe the guys on the left, were older than those on the right.
I must say, they were pretty well turned out for a gang.
Quite an iconic photo. Almost looks like an album cover.


Maybe you could put them up Inks(if poss.).Always interested in the very early Photos
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Maybe you could put them up Inks(if poss.).Always interested in the very early Photos

The guy on the far right of the photo, and the fella third in from the right are the ones that caught my eye style-wise, considering it was '58. If I recall the story correctly, the lads were only 15/16. Though I may be wrong about that.

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Originally Posted by Inks View Post
 

I managed to find one of the photos from the article I was talking about Cern. The guys were indeed from Finsbury Park. They were a street gang know as The Guvnors. The first two guys on the left definitely had a Ted thing going on. They've got the quiffs, but their clothing looks more American, than trad UK Ted (sort of Derek Bentley-ish). But as you go right, the clobber gets more modern. (I don't know whether that was deliberate on the part of the photographer) The guy on the far right looks very Mod for 1958. Maybe the guys on the left, were older than those on the right.

I must say, they were pretty well turned out for a gang.

Quite an iconic photo. Almost looks like an album cover.

I googled Finsbury park guvnors and found a picture by Don Mcullin,some lads stood in a bombed out house.

I think the same as you,that there is some kind of transition there rather than 2 different looks,I am not sure about late 50s styles,I know that there was an Italian inspired look but where that came in time with Teds and early Mods I don't know.

You could be right about some being older than others,also I think that ( like Ed said about BD shirts )people wanted to get wear out of the clothes that they had before moving on to the next fashion,so there would be a slow crossover period ?

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I googled Finsbury park guvnors and found a picture by Don Mcullin,some lads stood in a bombed out house.

I think the same as you,that there is some kind of transition there rather than 2 different looks,I am not sure about late 50s styles,I know that there was an Italian inspired look but where that came in time with Teds and early Mods I don't know.

You could be right about some being older than others,also I think that ( like Ed said about BD shirts )people wanted to get wear out of the clothes that they had before moving on to the next fashion,so there would be a slow crossover period ?

Don McCullin was the same guy that snapped the young Marc Bolan in all his Mod finery in '62/63. I think Bolan/Feld and his mates' threads in those pics, though definitely Mod, still have a whiff of Ted. He's got a 3 button jacket, but it's not a Italian-style bum-freezer, with skinny lapels. It's more of a English hacking-jacket cut, with waistcoat underneath. It kind of reminds me of a paired-down, minimalist Edwardian. Probably more like the Guards look that the original Teds were emulating.

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Originally Posted by Inks View Post
 

Don McCullin was the same guy that snapped the young Marc Bolan in all his Mod finery in '62/63. I think Bolan/Feld and his mates' threads in those pics, though definitely Mod, still have a whiff of Ted. He's got a 3 button jacket, but it's not a Italian-style bum-freezer, with skinny lapels. It's more of a English hacking-jacket cut, with waistcoat underneath. It kind of reminds me of a paired-down, minimalist Edwardian. Probably more like the Guards look that the original Teds were emulating.

Yes,I totally agree that's how I see it too, ( his jacket looks beautifully cut,where could you get one like that now ? ).

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Cut away shirt collars, the old man used to wear them, i know i've banged these pics up before, so aplogies for that.

First pic is around 58/59, the old man appears to be wearing a cut away.

Second pic, around 62/63, my uncle far left looks like a striped cut away, cant see the collar on the old mans, his mate second from right, again appears to be a cut away

 

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