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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post
 

gabriela..I have been wondering about the bottom left picture,is it the same jacket as the centre picture with the sleeves shortened ?,I am sure that I saw girls here with short sleeved jackets.

Always think that its a pity that we have never got a female "original" as a contributor to the thread.

BTW,on the tie question,I remember that most of the girls that I saw wore check shirts and they wouldn't have worn ties with them (just watch someone find a picture of girl in check shirt and tie now ).

Yes, it is a mohair tonic jacket with short sleeves, not seen these days but they were definitely worn back then. Here is another example taken from the movie Please Sir from 1971. You can also see the girls with the mohair dresses and top pocket hanky. 

 

 

I know a few original skinhead girls but they were not the same age and they lived in different cities. It's cool to talk with them because they all had different ways of dressing and hairstyles and I always get good tips and advice on how things were worn and done back then :)

post #17312 of 18622
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post


Not in S E London (except with school uniform, as has been said), but brownie's recollections show yet again that there can be variations in fashion over only a handful of miles.

I wonder if you could present the pics singly for us, Gabriela. Also, could you ask Tony if he would mind our reproducing the pics?

That stripey tank top would have been known as a 'bee jumper' in S E London. 1970/71 style.

 

The thing is that the pics were tiny as he had scanned them but not cut them (if that makes sense?), that's why I made the collage to make them bigger and they are a bit pixelated. I asked Tony if he could send them to me in a bigger format but he says he is not technical enough because computers were a distant dream in those days hahaha!

 

I will ask him again though and I will ask him about reproducing the pictures too!

post #17313 of 18622
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Originally Posted by gabriela View Post

Yes, it is a mohair tonic jacket with short sleeves, not seen these days but they were definitely worn back then. Here is another example taken from the movie Please Sir from 1971. You can also see the girls with the mohair dresses and top pocket hanky. 




I know a few original skinhead girls but they were not the same age and they lived in different cities. It's cool to talk with them because they all had different ways of dressing and hairstyles and I always get good tips and advice on how things were worn and done back then smile.gif


I can remember the short sleeved Jackets on Girls.My Girlfriend Mary(in `69)had a Green and Gold Tonic Mohair one

The Dresses(with the top pocket hankie) came a little later-when the Bun was becoming popular.
post #17314 of 18622
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

In the run-up to penny rounds etc, I distinctly remember unbuttoning BS and Jaytex shirts to achieve the look, usually with a crew-neck or even a sleeveless tank top affair and mainly just for work.

I'd just started to earn half-decent wages - for an apprentice - and wasn't prepared to bin the gear I had that had cost me so much in the first place.

Yes, I remember the time when we were all growing our hair, I saw lots of blokes with longer hair, BS shirts with the collar unbuttoned, still wearing mohair or PoW strides. It wasn't a deliberate look as such, just blokes not wanting to throw away decent clothes, while maybe saving up for a newer 'look'.
post #17315 of 18622
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

I can remember the short sleeved Jackets on Girls.My Girlfriend Mary(in `69)had a Green and Gold Tonic Mohair one

The Dresses(with the top pocket hankie) came a little later-when the Bun was becoming popular.

Yes, I reckon I have only seen mohair dresses in pictures from 1970, 1971 and 1972. However, I do not know what year Tony's sister's pictures are from as he did not say. He did say that that mohair dress in particular was the first their tailor was asked for and that they would do anything to be a bit different (he told me some things lol) but 6 weeks later everybody would do the same as usual.

Now that you mention buns, I wear my hair in a ponytail or in a bun, a big change from my previous hairstyle that was very short, similar to what Julie Driscoll would wear or so I tried haha. My friend Jan from Reading, she was 18 in 1969, told me that from the front I was looking exactly how they looked back then but that she couldn't see the back as it was not shown in the picture. She didn't remember buns at first, for her the back of the hair would be plaited and tucked under. Then my friend Julie from London, she did remember the buns and the net buns, which I have not seen and would like to see.
Edited by gabriela - 3/17/14 at 1:52am
post #17316 of 18622
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Originally Posted by gabriela View Post

Yes, I reckon I have only seen mohair dresses in pictures from 1970, 1971 and 1972. However, I do not know what year Tony's sister's pictures are from as he did not say. He did say that that mohair dress in particular was the first their tailor was asked for and that they would do anything to be a bit different (he told me some things lol) but 6 weeks later everybody would do the same as usual.

Now that you mention buns, I wear my hair in a ponytail or in a bun, a big change from my previous hairstyle that was very short, similar to what Julie Driscoll would wear or so I tried haha. My friend Jan from Reading, she was 18 in 1969, told me that from the front I was looking exactly how they looked back then but that she couldn't see the back as it was not shown in the picture. She didn't remember buns at first, for her the back of the hair would be plaited and tucked under. Then my friend Julie from London, she did remember the buns and the net buns, which I have not seen and would like to see.


A lot of Girls(who did not consider themselves Skinhead Girls-though they hung about with Skinheads)had the Bun with strands of hair down the sides.This was some of the older Girls to start with.If I can remember,and this is very vague,I believe some Girls would wear their Buns-inside white or black crochet nets.This would mainly be worn with Jeans.smile.gif
post #17317 of 18622
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post

Yes, I remember the time when we were all growing our hair, I saw lots of blokes with longer hair, BS shirts with the collar unbuttoned, still wearing mohair or PoW strides. It wasn't a deliberate look as such, just blokes not wanting to throw away decent clothes, while maybe saving up for a newer 'look'.

This was the original "Smooths" Look,just before the Patterned Shirts kicked in.I wish I could find the original Photo of a Guy from Stepney(late `70)-he had Shoulder Length Hair with Mohair Trousers-with 1/2 Turn-up and Royal Smooths.When they show "Smooths" it is later when the Look had moved further on.
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This was the original "Smooths" Look,just before the Patterned Shirts kicked in.I wish I could find the original Photo of a Guy from Stepney(late `70)-he had Shoulder Length Hair with Mohair Trousers-with 1/2 Turn-up and Royal Smooths.When they show "Smooths" it is later when the Look had moved further on.

 



This picture of bunty's brother from 1971, I believe, shows this combination. I assume it was the last skinhead style suit he bought and which was pressed into service for the wedding. His normal attire by then would have moved on I guess.

As I'm sure I've said before, girls seemed ready and able to move on much quicker - as shown here:

http://cdn.styleforum.net/4/47/900x900px-LL-47550cc2_P1010537.jpeg
post #17319 of 18622
A few minutes of shoe porn here:

http://vimeo.com/24528950

Apologies if a re-post.
post #17320 of 18622
Thanks Ed V, I enjoyed that. All good especially the passion he has it's there in spades
post #17321 of 18622

Speaking of suits and ties, what about cutaway collar shirts ? Did you wear them in the time ?

As seen on an additional Jim ferguson's sketch on the "fashion notebook"

U-Lead Systems, Inc.

One of my own. Thanks to the camera flash, the suit looks a bit tonic.

Vintage 70s light green suit by Elysées soieries. Shirt and (broad)tie by Old England

post #17322 of 18622
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post


In the run-up to penny rounds etc, I distinctly remember unbuttoning BS and Jaytex shirts to achieve the look, usually with a crew-neck or even a sleeveless tank top affair and mainly just for work.

I'd just started to earn half-decent wages - for an apprentice - and wasn't prepared to bin the gear I had that had cost me so much in the first place.

I have a feeling that pointed collars were worn here just before the round collars as well,then after the round collars the long pointed ones were worn again ?.

 

I was the same with clothes,sort of rotated it down to work wear and then binned it.

post #17323 of 18622
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Originally Posted by gabriela View Post
 

Yes, it is a mohair tonic jacket with short sleeves, not seen these days but they were definitely worn back then. Here is another example taken from the movie Please Sir from 1971. You can also see the girls with the mohair dresses and top pocket hanky.

 

 

I know a few original skinhead girls but they were not the same age and they lived in different cities. It's cool to talk with them because they all had different ways of dressing and hairstyles and I always get good tips and advice on how things were worn and done back then :)

I always thought that the girls looked smart in their suits,I remember dark blue ones ( may have been two tone ),but the ones I saw most of down here were green two tone,a lighter shade than the lads two tone sta prest,long jackets with covered buttons.

Have any of the ladies ever mentioned "scrag cuts "? it was a popular hairstyle with some of the girls about my age ,quite short ( for girls hair then ) and cut unevenly.

post #17324 of 18622
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Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post

Speaking of suits and ties, what about cutaway collar shirts ? Did you wear them in the time ?
As seen on an additional Jim ferguson's sketch on the "fashion notebook"
U-Lead Systems, Inc.

One of my own. Thanks to the camera flash, the suit looks a bit tonic.
Vintage 70s light green suit by Elysées soieries. Shirt and (broad)tie by Old England



I cannot remember wearing a cut-away collared shirt,with a 3 button suit.About `72,I had one with a Diamond Pattern Check in it.Throughout the early 70s the Collar Shapes changed from Penny,Long,Short(cutaway),you also had a kind of Pullover Shirts-mine had hunchback Cats on it.smile.gif
post #17325 of 18622
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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post

I always thought that the girls looked smart in their suits,I remember dark blue ones ( may have been two tone ),but the ones I saw most of down here were green two tone,a lighter shade than the lads two tone sta prest,long jackets with covered buttons.
Have any of the ladies ever mentioned "scrag cuts "? it was a popular hairstyle with some of the girls about my age ,quite short ( for girls hair then ) and cut unevenly.

Always love seeing Women in Suits(this goes back to this time).They were certainly very smart and Feminine.

The other style of Hair was Brushed Back style with side bits(this would be about `70).If you watch "Soulboys,Suedeheads and Skinheads" you will see a couple of Girls with this Style.
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