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post #16876 of 18908
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Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post

Speaking of big logos... (click to enlarge)


Clouseau, were there any other particular French brands that the French skinhead scene adopted as part of their fashion identity? I'm referring to another iconic brand like Lacoste. Like FP it has a very recognizable brand. Was that alligator brand much sought after by any other French mod or skinheads or any other French youth subculture equivalent?
post #16877 of 18908

i already spoke of that a few hundred pages ago, and i don't want to be too off topic (the hipster movie was a good laugh BTW), but indeed Lacoste was adopted at one point by some french nationalists skinheads. 

post #16878 of 18908
Doctor Who to wear a crombie and DMs. It says here.

http://tv.uk.msn.com/drama/peter-capaldis-doctor-who-costume
post #16879 of 18908
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Doctor Who to wear a crombie and DMs. It says here.

http://tv.uk.msn.com/drama/peter-capaldis-doctor-who-costume

Pleated trousers cut six inches too long and DMs - back to basics?  Hmmm...

post #16880 of 18908

 

'Slightly different sides' on a bleeding madras - sorry about the logo!

post #16881 of 18908
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post

Doctor Who to wear a crombie and DMs. It says here.

http://tv.uk.msn.com/drama/peter-capaldis-doctor-who-costume

 

 

 

Oof.  Looks absolutely terrible.  All the gear and no idea.  I recently saw the Bosstones and Dickie(lead vocals) had the same sort of "skinny trousers cut too long" look.  All the other fellas had sharp, well-tailored suits on, with a bit of an "in-the-know" cut to them, and Dickie's was ruined by the sloppy skinny look.  Hell of a guy but he needs to tighten up the look.  

post #16882 of 18908

Ugh, he looks pretty silly for a man of his age... they could have kept it classic but instead gave him 'rebellious' DMs and ill-fitting troosers. What a shame. It's a kids programme anyway.

post #16883 of 18908
Re: bleeding madras, that's a trad/ivy staple. I don't think everyone can pull it off though, and I've never been a fan of the patchwork madras thing, but I guess it looks the least objectionable in the form of a pair of shorts. When I lived on the east coast, one style you'd see some folks wearing in the summer was a white polo shirt with khakis and a madras sportcoat, plus boatshoes (sockless, of course).
post #16884 of 18908



For anyone that cares, I thought I'd post a quick comparison of some English-Made DM type boots I have. I had a hard time finding good info on Gripfast and Gladiators, so I hope this will help someone. Note that I have treated all the boots with Obenauf's LP.

The boots on the left are the now discontinued English-made steel toed, 10 eye Doctor Martens, model 1919. I'm not sure how old these are, but I purchased them NOS off eBay. I'm guessing they probably date from the time just before DM started moving production outside the UK. The soles are really bouncy just like I remember DM soles being when I had my last pair around 15 years ago. The leather on the boots is really, really stiff and will take some break in time. I'm not sure if that's how they are out of the box, or if they've dried out a little from being in storage. The last on these boots, even with the steel toes, is the narrowest of the three. I cannot wear them with my thicker wool socks or they pinch my feet.

The second pair of boots is a pair of oxblood Gripfast 10 eyes purchased about a month ago from the U.S. Gripfast website. They also have steel toes, and like the DMs they are made in England and are not safety rated. They have the combat-style screw-on soles, but there is a thin air cushion between the layers and the soles are not rock-hard like on a lot of military issue/surplus combat boots. Break in was a breeze, and they were very comfortable on the first day of wear. The last is nice and roomy also, great if you have wide feet or feet that are in between, or if you want to wear thick wool socks in the winter. Of the three boots, they are easily my favorite.

The third pair of boots, on the far right, are Gladiator Southerners, an 11 eye boot. These are marked "burgundy" on the box and are much brighter and redder than the Gripfast boots. Unlike the other boots, the steel toes are safety rated and they have much more of a factory workboot kinda vibe. The soles on these are really thick...on forums like this, traditional DMs will be called things like blobby and clunky, but compared to these boots, those are positively sleek. The sole is the type you'd find on a pair of boots a mechanic or construction worker would wear - grippy, hard rubber. They also have screws in them but are totally different in feel from the Gripfast soles. Instead of an air cushion, it looks like they have a dense foam layer between two layers of rubber. The soles themselves are comfy to walk around in, but the leather uppers are incredibly stiff. I'm hoping they will soften up with time.

If I buy another pair of these sort of boots, I may try the Thai-made "For Life" DMs or the MIE Vintage line. I got an email from Solovair saying that they will open their U.S. store again sometime in March or April 2014. I'm hoping the prices come down a bit then for U.S. customers. If the current U.S. Gripfast prices are anything to go by (I believe the store is operated by the same company) then that is what I'd expect.
post #16885 of 18908

Nice info.  I was actually recently thinking of getting a pair of Solovair boots but the lack of a USA distro and the realization of how much it'll be shipped from overseas made me change my mind.

 

I bought a pair of the MIE Vintage DMs a couple years ago and the leather certainly appears crappier than I remember.  I also own a pair of Getta' Grip (made by DM) which has that similar screw on commando sole that a few companies make.  They are wider than any DMs I have, but are hard as a rock, they're now my motorcycle boots.

post #16886 of 18908
Catch,

The Gladiator boots were on sale, so I bought them directly from the UK. If they were not on sale, I probably would've just opted for something else. With shipping I paid around ~$220 U.S. for them. Compare that with Gripfast for $240 shipped in the U.S. or most of the nicer Solovair models will end up being close to $300 or more shipped if you're buying from the UK and having them shipped to the U.S.

That's not even taking into account customs/duty fees, which you may or may not get charged depending on the total cost of what you bought and how it is shipped. AFAIK, I would not be charged customs fees for the Gladiators because they are right under the value where customs charges would kick in. But you never know what will happen. Some shipping companies have been known to send customers bills for customs/duty fees a few days after an item is delivered.

U.S. Gripfast store is here:

http://www.gripfastboots.com/
post #16887 of 18908

Nice French documentary about the Mod movement, dated March 1965, featuring the Who, young mods, Kit Lambert's interview... 

 

http://www.ina.fr/video/CPF86651489

post #16888 of 18908
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Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post

Nice French documentary about the Mod movement, dated March 1965, featuring the Who, young mods, Kit Lambert's interview... 

http://www.ina.fr/video/CPF86651489


Enjoyed the Film,Clouseau.Some good bits in it(especially liked the Club Scene).One or two bits "staged" though-the Girl with the bare-midriff for starters.The last bit was certainly for the Film-makers.Who in their right minds would be filmed,taking Pills.Bit like the media paying Mods to start a riot on the Bank Holiday.Interesting to see the "V" Neck Jumpers with Shirt and Tie,forgotten about that one. smile.gif
post #16889 of 18908
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post


Enjoyed the Film,Clouseau.Some good bits in it(especially liked the Club Scene).One or two bits "staged" though-the Girl with the bare-midriff for starters.The last bit was certainly for the Film-makers.Who in their right minds would be filmed,taking Pills.Bit like the media paying Mods to start a riot on the Bank Holiday.Interesting to see the "V" Neck Jumpers with Shirt and Tie,forgotten about that one. smile.gif

I liked Daltreys tweed / check jacket,if you see them now they have usually got wider lapels than that.

Going back to the Madras shirts,my mate had a couple ( I don't know where he got them from ) the sleeves were the same length as Mr Knightleys but a bit looser,I think that a lot of modern short sleeves are way too short,what were yours like ?.

post #16890 of 18908
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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post
 

I liked Daltreys tweed / check jacket,if you see them now they have usually got wider lapels than that.

Going back to the Madras shirts,my mate had a couple ( I don't know where he got them from ) the sleeves were the same length as Mr Knightleys but a bit looser,I think that a lot of modern short sleeves are way too short,what were yours like ?.

Daltrey's tweed was indeed nice. His BD was my idea of perfect. The collar was just right. Could've done with an iron though.

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